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1. Admira+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-05-17 14:39:52
The Galaxy S10e is my current phone, and I'm not sure what I will do when it stops receiving security updates. It's basically perfect. It still has an SD card slot. It still has a headphone jack. It has wireless charging. It's reasonably sized. And it had flagship-for-the-time specs (albeit slightly less than the mainline S10 or S10+). Samsung doesn't make anything comparable to this anymore.

The only drawback is that the battery life has gotten worse since I originally bought it. But if I could easily swap that out, I would keep it for another five years.

EDIT: Oh, and the fingerprint scanner on the power button seems to work way more reliably, IMO, than the embedded fingerprint scanners under the touchscreens.

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2. magnio+H2[view] [source] 2022-05-17 14:50:33
>>Admira+(OP)
Using the same phone. The glass on the back is a bit broken after I dropped it for like the 100th time, and the battery life is somewhat mediocre, but otherwise it is the best thing I have ever used.

The S22 (standard version) has slightly bigger screen but is quite similar in size, so that is probably what I will use next.

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3. pizza2+g5[view] [source] 2022-05-17 14:59:44
>>Admira+(OP)
If you have a bit of patience, install LineageOS. Samsung phones have a big following in this domain - as of today (May/2022), even the Galaxy S3 (Neo) is supported (!).

I'm not saying it's trivial (it's not hard, but has a large enough amount of small actions to execute), but it's definitely worth doubling (or more) the phone duration.

The FamousProducer™ of my phone supported it for 3 years. This is terrible. LineageOS allows me to use it now - over 3 years after the end of support. Screw FamousProducer™.

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4. pmlnr+l5[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:00:25
>>Admira+(OP)
LineageOS will probably support it forever, given they still release for S4.
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5. cassep+36[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:03:13
>>Admira+(OP)
Using a refurbished Galaxy S7. It works just fine, is small enough and has a physical home button which I love. We don't need new phones. Please stop buying new phones, buy refurbished ones and prioritize easy to repair friendly hardware.
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6. Admira+x6[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 15:04:33
>>pizza2+g5
IIRC, LineageOS support for US Samsung devices with Snapdragon CPUs has always been very limited. Rooting them is difficult, if not impossible, and I seem to remember that doing so blows some kind of fuse in the device itself which then irreparably caps the battery on the device to like 80%.

Given that the S10e's battery life is already waning, I'm not sure I want to do that. But yes! If there were a safe way to do so, I would gladly run LOS on the phone for ten years.

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7. jen20+S7[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 15:09:31
>>pizza2+g5
> FamousProducer™

Why be so coy about this? Naming and shaming should serve as a warning to those who might buy one expecting long term support, or as a spur to action towards LineageOS for those who many have been or are about to be blindsided by the support window expiring.

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8. pizza2+fa[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 15:18:52
>>jen20+S7
You're correct. The reason is not to attribute industry common practices to a specific company, but it makes sense also to expose it :) The producer is Google. I think (not sure) that they support their phones for 3 years.
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9. pizza2+Ia[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 15:20:41
>>Admira+x6
Ouch. I wasn't aware of that. I think I've rooted in the past the S2 and S3, but it was long ago.

Another brand that seems to be well supported (although not as extensively, timewise, as Samsung) is Google. LineageOS still supports the Pixel 1.

10. Normil+le[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:36:39
>>Admira+(OP)
I'll see your Galaxy S10e and raise you a Galaxy S7. Just the right size for me and still going strong, in spite of the fact it was second hand already, when I bought it off eBay about 4 or 5 years ago.

I really don't know why people think they need a new phone every year. I've had 2 in the past decade. Both bought cheaply second hand [previous one am HTC One M8] and I got years of use out of each. In fact the One M8 is still working fine, apart from the degraded battery life.

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11. zerocr+oo[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 16:18:18
>>pizza2+fa
The previous security update window guarantee for Pixels from Google was 3 years. With the 6 series (I believe they confirmed this includes the 6a) they extended that to 5 years.

My real problem isn't the previous 3 year window but that it counts from the first day they sell it, not the last. I bought my current phone, a Pixel 3a, late in its cycle for cheaper, early in 2020. It's now basically at the end of its updates because the guarantee counts 3 years starting from the release date in mid-2019, not from when I bought it.

5 years is obviously preferable but I'd like them to have also shifted it to be based on when they stop selling them new.

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12. iamthi+zp[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 16:24:33
>>cassep+36
The issue with refurbished ones is guaranteeing quality.

If you buy from Amazon Renewed, for example, you have no idea exactly what you'll get. You could get a pristine unit without a scratch on it with a battery that has barely 10 cycles, or you could get a well worn (with plenty of micro scratches and minor nicks) with a battery that's been cycled 500+ times. It's kind of a crap-shoot when it comes to buying refurbished.

As someone who takes pride in keeping my phones absolutely perfect and even micro-scratch free, it's too much of a risk.

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13. seydor+qq[view] [source] 2022-05-17 16:27:49
>>Admira+(OP)
i m stuck with S10 too (+ it has headphone jack)

Disable animations and it s not really slow.

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14. _emacs+as[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 16:35:20
>>pizza2+fa
3 years for the older ones but at least 5 years for newer devices: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en#z...
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15. cassep+dD[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 17:26:43
>>iamthi+zp
I bought mine on backmarket, they act as a middleman. You buy from a repair with a minimum six months guarantee or beyond. If it stops working, you can send it to repair. Batteries are guaranted to be at least 70% original capacity or have been replaced. There are different grades from scratched to pristine. Not sure they operate in your country though. Getting a former flagship phone for 150 euros with a CPU just as good or equivalent to a new phone of the same price seems worth it to me. Plus it's nice not to have to worry about that expensive thing in your pocket.
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16. abvdas+I61[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 20:01:23
>>magnio+H2
I did exactly what you're describing. I like the S22 but it is a little bigger than my ideal size. My only minor nitpick is with the fingerprint reader being under the screen instead of embedded in the power button (which I loved about the s10e since holding it naturally would unlock the screen). Samsung should just make something like an S22e or 23e.
17. perryi+4W1[view] [source] 2022-05-18 03:01:14
>>Admira+(OP)
I've had a very similar experience with my Galaxy S10. I got the battery swapped a few months ago for a very reasonable ₹2000 ($~30) at a Samsung service centre. Now my battery life is back to what it used to be. I'm confident I'll keep using this for at least two more years.

There's absolutely no replacement for this phone right now. Flagship specs, amazing camera, decent battery, SD card, headphone jack, 1440p screen. There's nothing like it.

PS: the in screen fingerprint sensor was quite horrible initially, but updates over the years have made it quite similar to a regular sensor.

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18. askvic+ry2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-18 10:51:08
>>Normil+le
Yeah, I'm still using an S7, similarly purchased second hand. Hardware is great. Have recently installed LightROM on it to get a more up to date Android, and it works really well. I tried the latest LineageOS for a brief spell, and it performed beautifully except that voice calls had the robot-voice issue that plagues Samsung phones (thanks proprietary drivers!)
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19. askvic+1z2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-18 10:55:21
>>pmlnr+l5
Some of the proprietary Samsung stuff (voice calls, camera) can be problematic. Other than that it's amazing.
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