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1. voldac+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-09-11 21:40:28
I don't fully understand how archive.is operates. They don't remove copyrighted content (which I like, since it provides a useful service), they must have probably terabytes upon terabytes of data in some datacenter somewhere, yet they never seem to be shut down by the govt or their datacenter/cloud provider. Am I just naive to be surprised by this? How does all this work exactly?
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2. oeneta+K3[view] [source] 2021-09-11 22:11:36
>>voldac+(OP)
Fair use applies i think.
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3. voldac+O3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-11 22:12:23
>>oeneta+K3
Things on archive.org get DMCA'ed all the time
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4. logbis+i4[view] [source] 2021-09-11 22:16:39
>>voldac+(OP)
It’s pretty shadowy for sure.

There’s basically no information on the web site about the company, how they operate, who finances them, what their privacy policy is, or even how to contact them. Their “blog” is an anonymous Tumblr site.

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5. kelnos+P7[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-11 22:44:28
>>oeneta+K3
I don't think retaining and publishing complete copies of copyrighted works falls under even the most generous interpretation of fair use.
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6. contra+9c[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-11 23:24:57
>>oeneta+K3
It should, but I don't think it does in its current form.
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7. urthor+Wj[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-12 00:45:46
>>voldac+O3
I'm almost certain the actual reason is producing all the infrastructure to DMCA content on Google/Facebook/Twitter/Youtube and other "mainstream" Web 2.0 platforms is expensive.

Copyright enforcement is a lot stricter on Youtube, than say, Reddit video.

It's all down to the engagement of the IP owners.

My guess is they just haven't gotten around to chasing Archive.is down that hard.

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8. dilyev+0m[view] [source] 2021-09-12 01:07:42
>>voldac+(OP)
They’re in russia so dgaf about this. The insistence on tracking and absence of https when served from inside russia kind of implies all sorts of things. Use archive.org
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9. voldac+ZM[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-12 07:47:03
>>dilyev+0m
I will continue to use them because things get taken down from archive.org sometimes, or at any rate far more often than with archive.is. I consider it a bug when anything disappears from an archive for any reason.
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10. grapis+cP[view] [source] 2021-09-12 08:24:59
>>voldac+(OP)
It’s apparently self funded by him. I don’t know how he doesn’t get shut down but I don’t know how all the DMCA avoiding pirated streaming sites don’t either, or how sci hub isn’t domain blocked in the US, or why millions of copyrighted books aren’t DMCAed from libgen.
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11. tinus_+WQ[view] [source] 2021-09-12 08:56:12
>>voldac+(OP)
It’s easy, you just make yourself unavailable for contact, there’s plenty of providers that don’t care what you do. It’ll take years to get banned.

The internet is global, it’s a choice to apply US law like the dmca. You can also choose not to.

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12. tinus_+gR[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-12 09:01:43
>>urthor+Wj
It’s a value proposition. Archive.is doesn’t host Hollywood blockbusters. If it is hard to take them down, nobody is going to do that as long as they don’t cause to much real damage.
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