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I'm trying to keep an open mind about things, but I just find is so suspicious that the articles blaming China for Covid get upvoted so enthusiastically that people forget to post in the first 10 minutes before they hit the front page.

I'm not trying to reject any hypothesis but I do reject the fervor. And then people come out of the woodwork and try to defend the Wuhan Lab as the source with a load of coincidences that trend to conspiratorial thoughts. Like how we only know of a related Covid strain in bat hundreds of miles away from Wuhan... but bats are not endemic to just Yunnan where the closest Covid-19 match was from. Does Wuhan not have bats?

>>unders+(OP)
HN tends to upvote counternarratives. The Wuhan lab leak hypothesis was dismissed as either "debunked" or "discredited" in the mainstream media early, but now is considered possible, or even likely.

>>ErikVa+k
Upvotes are free. HN has been upvoting this theory since the beginning.

>>ErikVa+k
How can you upvote 'counternarratives' while going along with what the mainstream media says is the 'real story'?

If you lay all the pieces of data out on a table, it's pretty easy to deduce this virus most likely originated from Wuhan.

The fact that China is not fully complying with releasing early COVID records and that the WHO is being sued says a lot...

>>unders+(OP)
If the lab theory is true it's a collaborative Chinese-US f** up. So unlikely this is purely driven by anti-Chinese prejudice.

>>unders+(OP)
Wuhan does not have bats, indeed.

Some of the evidence is not co-incidence based, for example, the documents that appear to show the US was funding GOF research on bat coronaviruses at the WIV.

However, the reaction of the Chinese authorities (destroy all the evidence, block any investigation) is pretty much the definition of a conspiracy. I'm not sure it merits the term theory anymore - when the authorities are very visibly covering up all the evidence related to a critical event, that's what a conspiracy is. The only question now is what is the conspiracy hiding? Well, there's only one obvious possibility, isn't there?

>>ErikVa+k
That is not true. HN is lagging behind mainstream when it comes to disputed issues. You will be downvoted to hell if you post anything that is only beginning to take a hold in the mainstream