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1. ptx+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-05-22 22:02:21
Why would you enable unattended upgrades on a desktop computer (as opposed to a server)? Is this something Ubuntu enforces?

If you don't enable this feature (which isn't enabled by default in Debian) you won't have this problem.

replies(1): >>turtle+E
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2. turtle+E[view] [source] 2021-05-22 22:08:54
>>ptx+(OP)
It was enabled by default in the standard desktop install (I didn't really customize anything I'm not a heavy user of desktop Linux). Of course I'll be disabling it next time I boot that partition. Point being Linux isn't immune to this type of annoyance.
replies(1): >>kaba0+Y
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3. kaba0+Y[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-22 22:13:03
>>turtle+E
As far as I know it is only Ubuntu that does anything similar.
replies(3): >>ASalaz+z3 >>jkeple+N3 >>superd+47
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4. ASalaz+z3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-22 22:40:29
>>kaba0+Y
Probably to deal with corruption from people applying library updates and not restarting their programs because they keep running fine in memory. I have no idea how many bug reports could be ascribed to this, but if we want a user-friendly Linux we have to put up with the safer update process. It's not lengthy at all, wait less than one minute and you're set.
replies(1): >>casmcl+8Y1
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5. jkeple+N3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-22 22:43:09
>>kaba0+Y
I haven't ever run into that in 8 years of running a various GNU/Linux distros (MeeGo, Elementary OS, Maemo, Sailfish OS, Debian)... though I've never run Ubuntu.
replies(1): >>jabits+i8
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6. superd+47[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-22 23:19:44
>>kaba0+Y
This also happens in fedora when applying updates through the gnome-software-center.
replies(1): >>kaba0+fA
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7. jabits+i8[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-22 23:32:11
>>jkeple+N3
Though I’ve never run the most popular by an order of magnitude distro out there…
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8. kaba0+fA[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-23 06:44:28
>>superd+47
Let’s be honest, both gnome’s and kde’s software centers are jokes. I don’t understand why, is there no interest because everyone installs things from a command line? It doesn’t seem to be such a hard problem.
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9. casmcl+8Y1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-05-23 20:21:10
>>ASalaz+z3
NixOS and GuixSD aren't user friendly because the people who use them are like GNU/Linux users circa 2000: people insane enough to install an operating system that is very particular about who its friends are.

But they do have an excellent solution to the whole updates debacle: Install them in a separate location, initialise them when booting or when they're finished installing, and delete them when they're inaccessible from a few standard locations like /boot or /proc.

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