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1. addict+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:03:02
You mean primary sources like the program that had US scientists embedded in Chinese laboratories that Trump dismantled in 2019?

Also, you clearly don’t understand what the WHO does and how critical it has been in the reduction and even eradication of disease spread across the world over decades.

Further, the WHO, much like most multilateral organizations is dependent on its member states for strength. When the most powerful member state voluntarily and unilaterally chose to disengage over the past half decade, it shouldn’t be surprised that the 2nd most powerful member state is calling the shots.

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2. renewi+m[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:05:43
>>addict+(OP)
Okay, I'm happy to amend to "The WHO is useless for information on novel disease spread". That's what I intended anyway but clearly did not constrain the sentence correctly.

Yeah, I'm sure as a multilateral platform for cooperation on things that everyone wants done they're good.

But as an information source for novel epidemics, clearly we should use our spy sats.

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3. throwa+71[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:11:29
>>addict+(OP)
Has the WHO really been that critical or are we ascribing successes to them that are really the result of business and technological innovation? At least in the recent decade or two, they seem to consistently be bad at their job and mired in politics. Even before the coronavirus there were issues like their failures in managing the Ebola outbreak (https://time.com/4123858/ebola-crisis-who-response-failure/).
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4. aaomid+M1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-02-13 19:15:29
>>throwa+71
WHO is like your IT team. You only see their failures.
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5. jlmort+L3[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-02-13 19:31:06
>>renewi+m
How do we use our spy satellites for information about an epidemic?

I'm really struggling to understand what you're suggesting here. I'm aware there is a whole cottage industry of conspiracy theorists that point to satellite photos of busy parking lots outside hospitals in Hubei Province as evidence of earlier spread of Covid than has been officially acknowledged. But there's no way to distinguish a busy parking lot caused by a severe influenza outbreak (which existed prior to Covid in Hubei) and a novel pathogen.

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6. renewi+g4[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-02-13 19:34:55
>>jlmort+L3
Using "spy sats" in a pars pro toto sense. The intelligence apparatus.
7. makomk+AL[view] [source] 2021-02-14 01:13:24
>>addict+(OP)
If I remember rightly, the news articles about those US scientists embedded in Chinese laboratories eventually admitted about half-way in that they wouldn't have access to any more useful information on Covid-19 than the US already had. Which, of course, made the articles kind of pointless except as a way of stoking outrage amongst people who didn't care about little details like that.
8. pvalde+ZM[view] [source] 2021-02-14 01:26:03
>>addict+(OP)
"embedded" could be used in a spy context, but is not the right word for describe scientists. I would suggest cooperating or simply working instead.
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