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1. djroge+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-01-23 06:19:28
It’s also tragic that the changes we made cost 20+ million jobs, and dramatically increased income inequality.
replies(1): >>Walter+N7
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2. Walter+N7[view] [source] 2021-01-23 08:15:50
>>djroge+(OP)
Could there have been structural issues that existed before COVID that led to this outcome, but that COVID itself revealed? Much like certain pre-existing conditions lead to a greater chance of loss of life from COVID?

Some people blame COVID and some people blame the pre-existing conditions.

Is COVID to blame for the economic costs that you mention, or are the pre-existing conditions?

replies(2): >>jessau+xy >>djroge+wE
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3. jessau+xy[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-23 14:02:55
>>Walter+N7
Absolutely, yes. In normal nations, mechanisms existed to pay for both health care and lost wages for all citizens. Those mechanisms don't exist in USA. We only have mechanisms to give lots of money to the already-rich people who control our elections. So, we got "The CARES Act".
replies(1): >>djroge+OD
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4. djroge+OD[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-23 14:51:10
>>jessau+xy
To say that we have no mechanism to pay for unemployment or health care for the unemployed is disingenuous at best. The poor are exactly the people whose healthcare the government does pay for. And the CARES act largely just expanded existing welfare and unemployment benefits.
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5. djroge+wE[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-23 14:56:46
>>Walter+N7
> Is COVID to blame for the economic costs that you mention, or are the pre-existing conditions?

I fail to grasp what you’re getting at here - what pre-existing conditions could possibly lead to millions of people losing their jobs because they’re employers were forbidden to do business?

Unless you’re suggesting that people should not own businesses or be employed by those who do...

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6. jessau+Sy1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-01-23 21:11:33
>>djroge+OD
Perhaps you haven't spent much time on unemployment or Medicaid? I work in a dental clinic, and it seems like every month there's another wrinkle added to the Medicaid system to make it stingier and to chase away more providers. Unemployment only helps a quarter of those who are unemployed, and it pays those people on average a third of what they were making while employed.

This diagram shows that "CARES Act" was very much not about "expanding existing welfare and unemployment benefits". [0]

Americans who haven't traveled have no concept of how a functioning polity cares for citizens during a pandemic. If our government doesn't care for us, why do we tolerate it?

[0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/CARES_Ac...

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