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1. GoOnTh+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-08-18 16:24:18
They can change that though, by having the foundation directly employ Firefox contributors
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2. freshs+92[view] [source] 2020-08-18 16:34:22
>>GoOnTh+(OP)
Or at least not funnel millions of donation dollars to Mitchell Baker.
replies(2): >>marcin+W3 >>MaxBar+v5
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3. marcin+W3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 16:41:52
>>freshs+92
Mitchell Baker is paid by the Mozilla Corporation which in turn is paid by it's search deals. She is paid $0 by the Mozilla Foundation and it's donations. Feel free to checkout the foundation financial statement from 2018 (it's on page 7):

https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-fo...

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4. MaxBar+v5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 16:49:39
>>freshs+92
You might like this chart:

https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1217512049716035584

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5. MaxBar+I5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 16:50:27
>>marcin+W3
And if she were paid less, Mozilla Corporation could spend that money on its mission.
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6. marcin+z6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 16:54:08
>>MaxBar+I5
Which in the context of how Mozilla deals with donations is a separate and unrelated discussion.

edit: More broadly, pointing out someone as making a false statement does not mean you agree with the opposite view, simply that you don't like people spreading false statements.

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7. MaxBar+M8[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 17:03:57
>>marcin+z6
Sure, you were right to point out that freshsqueeze was incorrect in saying they funnel donations to their overpaid CEO, but the fungibility point is an important one.

A related point on fungibility turned up in earlier discussions: donating directly to Firefox might not count for much if Mozilla balance it out by redirecting the same sum of their general fund away from Firefox. [0][1]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142097

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24131981

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8. marcin+ib[view] [source] 2020-08-18 17:14:38
>>GoOnTh+(OP)
That's true but as MaxBarraclough points out in this discussion the Mozilla Corporation could simply remove an equal number of it's engineers from Firefox development. Thus your donation provides no net gain. There'd also probably be some overhead from managing those new Foundation engineers as they probably, legally, cannot be directly managed by the Corporation.

So as long as the Mozilla mission is not aligned with the "Firefox mission" there is no winning.

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9. coldpi+RI[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-18 19:45:12
>>MaxBar+M8
> overpaid CEO

Overpaid relative to what? Other CEOs of similar sized non-profits? Do you have evidence to support that claim?

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10. iopq+y2d[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-08-23 09:38:28
>>coldpi+RI
Relative to performance.
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