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1. Rorith+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-07-23 07:22:58
Why is it so hard to produce a 13" Notebook with a Ryzen 4800U, 32 GB Ram (or better just two Sockets) and two 4k/60hz Outputs?

Make one HDMI 2.0 and the other Displayport over Type-C and I'm fine.

I'd love to see a USB 3 Type-A Port aswell but that seems like too much to ask nowadays.

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2. sz4ker+f5[view] [source] 2020-07-23 08:21:09
>>Rorith+(OP)
Lenovo X13 with Ryzen 4750U + 32 GB RAM + docking station is quite similar.
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3. MrUnde+p7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 08:46:41
>>sz4ker+f5
Looks like it's kicking ass in the benchmarks too: https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-benchmarks-AMD-Ryzen-400...
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4. baybal+5a[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 09:26:04
>>sz4ker+f5
I wonder, would there be somebody brave enough to go for resolder.
replies(1): >>Rorith+Bj
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5. boruto+yh[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 11:03:39
>>sz4ker+f5
> You can get 32GB of RAM in a 15" form factor, just not in 13".

> This is due to the well known engineering limitation that links LCD size to the density of RAM modules that can be supported by a motherboard.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21445497

I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related.

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6. Rorith+Bj[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 11:29:03
>>baybal+5a
The CPU? You'd have to buy a second notebook to get the 4800U first...

I'd pay money to see Louis Rossmann try though.

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7. Rorith+Mj[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 11:30:48
>>boruto+yh
This is simply not true. My current Notebook is a 32GB Ram equipped 13" Toshiba Portegé X-30-D, comes in at nearly 1KG and is available with a quad-core i7-8550U.

I'd just like a Ryzen 4800U version of my current machine, even if it means sacrificing Thunderbolt 3.

I think i'll have to wait for 5800U to come around and have USB4 though to see that happen. :(

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8. baybal+pm[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 11:58:00
>>Rorith+Bj
For as long as you can get CPU from scrapers, it shouldn't be a problem.
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9. tonyar+Du[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 13:01:23
>>boruto+yh
> I thought this comment 8 months back was correct. I dont know the limitation nor could find something related.

>> Semi- >> Autonomous >> Remote >> Cache >> Assignment >> Synchronization >> Monitoring

Unfortunately looks like you got trolled. There's definitely no such engineering limitation. It's primarily, I think, a marketing limitation; if you want a beefier machine, they want to push you towards overall higher end equipment.

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10. boruto+Gy[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 13:25:29
>>tonyar+Du
Looks like it. I read that comment and it stuck in my head.
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11. Rorith+6z[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 13:28:59
>>Rorith+Mj
Here is a link to a block diagram to show what's possible on Renoir Chipsets:

https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/...

12. x87678+nO[view] [source] 2020-07-23 15:06:01
>>Rorith+(OP)
I kinda feel if you really need a lot of resources you can use a cloud server or local physical box. There are lots of workstation laptops spec'd like you want but they're big, heavy and expensive.
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13. numpad+fQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 15:16:37
>>boruto+yh
Maybe due to space, or could be power constraints. According to little Google Search, DDR4 DRAM consume roughly 1.5W per 4GB(not per module) so 32GB = 12W by itself at least at peak.

DDR4 SODIMM 32GB modules are about $150 right now so you can pop one in if you want and if your machine supports it.

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14. x87678+mV[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 15:43:20
>>boruto+yh
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi...

click Customize, then choose Ryzen 7, then choose 32GB memory.

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15. noblea+Y31[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-07-23 16:27:05
>>x87678+mV
That attempts to load a customize page, then immediately 404s. This is one of those moments where I think, "JavaScript was such a poor choice on this page".
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