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Since the NPR is a 3 minute listen without a transcript, here's the ACLU's text/image article: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/wrongfully-arre...

And here's a 1st-person account from the arrested man: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/24/i-was-wro...

>>danso+(OP)
As soon as I saw it was audio only, i left the site. Why do sites do this? How many people actually stick to the page and listen to that?

>>danso+(OP)
NPR's text-only article served to me:

https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=882683463

>>TedDoe+15
> How many people actually stick to the page and listen to that?

I just did. 3 minutes wasn't that bad and I wasn't somewhere where it would be a problem.

> Why do sites do this?

NPR is a radio network. I have seen that often they do transcribe their clips. I am not sure what the process they have for that looks like, but it seems this particular clip didn't get transcribed.

Edit: looks like they do have a transcription mentioned elsewhere in the thread. So seems like some kind of UI fail.

>>TedDoe+15
NPR does transcribe (many, most?) its audio stories, but usually there's a delay of a day or so – the published timestamp for this story is 5:06AM (ET) today.

edit: looks like there's a text version of the article. I'm assuming this is a CMS issue: there's an audio story and a "print story", but the former hadn't been linked to the latter: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23628790

>>TedDoe+15
Well, if anyone were going to do it, you'd think no one would be surprised about it being the "National Public Radio"

>>013a+kl
Accessibility still matters, or should still matter even if you’re a radio station, but probably especially if you’re a news radio station.

>>danso+(OP)
The mods can change this link to https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/882683463/the-computer-got-it...

The linked story is audio only and is associated with the Morning Edition broadcast, but the full story appears under our Special Series section.

(I work for NPR)

>>TedDoe+15
Why do radio sites post audio?

>>dvtrn+7n
How many TV shows have audio descriptions of non verbal parts of what you see on screen?

>>dvtrn+7n
NPR is fantastic when it comes to accessibility by providing transcripts. I linked the page thinking the transcript will come later as they usually do. But turns out it was a wrong link. See elsewhere for the correct link.

>>TedDoe+15
Most people are going to hear the story on the radio or in a podcast app / RSS feed. It’s useful to have the story indexed on a shareable web link where it can be played on different platforms without any setup. If I wanted to share a podcast episode with friends in a group chat, a link like this would be a good way to do it. Since this is more of a long-form text discussion forum I’d probably look for a text format before posting here.

>>danso+h8
They transcribe all their stories. Back before the web was widespread, you could call or write NPR and have them mail a transcript to you.

>>scarfa+kD
More than zero. It's called closed captioning, isn't it? I've quite often seen closed-captioning that put brief written descriptions of non-verbal depictions in bracket, and it's not entirely common either

https://www.automaticsync.com/captionsync/what-qualifies-as-... (see section: "High Quality Captioning")

>>dvtrn+AZ
Close captioning is for people who can’t hear.

I am not aware of many TV shows that offer audio commentary for the visually impaired.

Here is an example of one that does.

https://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400590705/after-fan-pressure-...

>>scarfa+801
Sorry, I thought that since we were originally talking about transcriptions of radio news broadcasts and accessibility for the hard of hearing that closed-captioning would be appropriate and relevant. But your point is well met.

>>milesp+Wt
Ok, changed from https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/882678392/man-says-he-was-fal.... Thanks!