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1. SN7647+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:54:07
Doesn't all surveillance require a warrant?
replies(5): >>0xcde4+u >>godzil+q2 >>loteck+Bi >>stjohn+3G >>syshum+AT
2. 0xcde4+u[view] [source] 2020-06-20 21:58:13
>>SN7647+(OP)
As I understand it (not a lawyer or law enforcement), 4A protections effectively only apply where either the search is of a space where the subject has a "reasonable expectation of privacy" or the police are actually handling the subject's property (e.g. attaching a GPS tracker to a vehicle).
3. godzil+q2[view] [source] 2020-06-20 22:13:24
>>SN7647+(OP)
For it to be admissible in court.

Most people can’t afford an attorney and end up taking a plea.

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4. gruez+Lb[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-20 23:43:05
>>godzil+q2
Actually, there's a "good faith" (aka. "ignorance of the law") exception for cops. So even a lawyer might not be able to save you.

https://www.justia.com/criminal/procedure/search-and-seizure...

>A mistake of law by a police officer sometimes can trigger the exception. If an officer takes steps based on the existing interpretation of the law, but a court later rules that the law should be interpreted differently, they may be found to have acted in good faith.

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5. jdsull+ne[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-21 00:12:11
>>gruez+Lb
Your mainstream explanation isn't correct. This only applies when a court replaces an existing precedent - a relatively rare occurrence. Police shouldn't be expected to anticipate the court's change of heart ahead of time.
6. loteck+Bi[view] [source] 2020-06-21 01:07:16
>>SN7647+(OP)
Mass surveillance certainly doesn't.
7. stjohn+3G[view] [source] 2020-06-21 06:23:53
>>SN7647+(OP)
On public streets and property? Outside your home in plain view (from the street)? no.
8. syshum+AT[view] [source] 2020-06-21 10:14:38
>>SN7647+(OP)
Welcome to the world of "Parallel Construction" which is a "legal" way of ignoring the constitution
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