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1. schnab+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:53:21
One interesting note - she's being charged federally, not by local Philly PD.
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2. vaadu+01[view] [source] 2020-06-18 00:02:22
>>schnab+(OP)
She crossed state lines?
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3. qes+52[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:12:37
>>vaadu+01
It isn't necessary to "cross state lines" to be charged with a federal crime.
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4. jessup+T2[view] [source] 2020-06-18 00:20:13
>>schnab+(OP)
Another interesting note - nation wide looting and destruction for BLM. Yet not a single protest from these righteous folks regarding Chinese government for releasing virus and ruining the economy.
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5. clampr+F4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:33:46
>>qes+52
Did it affect interstate commerce?
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6. mh-+i5[view] [source] 2020-06-18 00:41:34
>>schnab+(OP)
The police department receives federal funding. It's mentioned in the affidavit.
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7. antonc+u5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:44:34
>>qes+52
No, but it would have to violate federal laws. Most crimes are crimes under state law. For example murder is illegal under state laws[1], it only falls under federal jurisdiction under certain circumstances, like if it is on federal property of involves from federal employees.

Sometimes when states fail to prosecute, or fail to get a conviction, the Feds will prosecute. But the original crime might not be a federal crime, so they prosecute under something else (there are ~3000 federal laws to choose from).

For example, sometimes when police kill citizens, and DAs don't prosecute, the Feds will. But the murder isn't in federal jurisdiction, so they charge them with "color of law"[2][3], which is a federal crime.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(United_States_law)#Jur...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_(law)

[4] https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-l...

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8. centim+u6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:54:10
>>clampr+F4
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, it's a good joke - this is one of the two standards (along with "necessary and proper") that courts have used to justify ~every federal law as constitutional.

Fun fact: the federal law that bans firearms in schools is based on "interstate commerce".

> the firearm in question "has moved in or otherwise affects interstate commerce."[3] As nearly all firearms have moved in interstate commerce at some point in their existence, critics assert this was merely a legislative tactic to circumvent the Supreme Court's ruling.[2]

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9. dang+w7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 01:05:10
>>jessup+T2
"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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10. monadi+S9[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 01:32:59
>>antonc+u5
I would be surprised if the feds were not directed to make arrests and charge as harshly as possible.
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11. roywig+je[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 02:17:25
>>clampr+F4
I don't have a copy of the indictment, but in other police car cases they've used the fact that the car itself was imported, therefore destroying it affects international commerce.
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12. mywitt+gk[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 03:23:36
>>monadi+S9
Bill Bar certainly doesn't strike me as a advocate for leniency in this situation
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