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1. slg+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:05:59
Ironically, doesn't this partially disprove one of the major complaints against the abolish police movement that we need police to solve crimes? Preventing and solving crime usually doesn't require a gun. It may be time to specialize and have less generic police and more non-violent investigators, social workers, mental health experts, crisis workers, etc.
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2. Gibbon+M3[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:36:56
>>slg+(OP)
I think most countries most cops don't carry guns. Even in the US most security guards don't. My preference would be ban handguns and have far less armed police. And much higher vetting for cops that do carry.
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3. RcouF1+q4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:42:38
>>Gibbon+M3
> My preference would be ban handguns

We can’t even get assault rifles banned, good luck banning hand guns.

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4. google+36[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:56:30
>>Gibbon+M3
The US isn't most countries, there are 300+ million guns and the cops have to do 10 million arrests a year. They have to be armed for their own safety.
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5. jeffda+P6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:03:26
>>RcouF1+q4
All rifles combined -- including "assault rifles" -- are involved in fewer murders than knives. Also involved in fewer murders than hands/fists. This is true even in states where laws for obtaining them are very lax:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

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6. Gibbon+rc[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:57:07
>>jeffda+P6
That's my point. For all the demonization of rifles and assault rifles, handguns are the bulk of the problem.
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7. RcouF1+VF[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 06:56:25
>>Gibbon+rc
But I think handguns would be even harder politically to ban.
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8. Gibbon+Nj2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 19:30:03
>>RcouF1+VF
Big problem is the Supreme Court said states can't ban handguns. Which is sort of insane because they allow states to ban 'assault weapons' and sawed off shotguns.
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