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1. millzl+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:11:47
I'm surprised that the people charged with investigating her clicked on every single link in google and read every review. That shirt is all over the internet. Seems like a needle in a haystack.
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2. neonat+h[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:13:46
>>millzl+(OP)
Parallel construction? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
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3. Jarwai+q1[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:22:13
>>millzl+(OP)
It's still a finite number of sites, and a finite number of comments. Could probably do a CTRL+F for Philadelphia across all of them relatively quickly. Or have tools to automate the search
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4. nyolfe+h6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 22:57:43
>>neonat+h
this was my immediate suspicion as well; feds surely have cell tower records at the very least
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5. alrs+o6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 22:58:26
>>neonat+h
Parallel construction, I'm glad you beat me to it. This isn't quite "we correlated historic cellular records and the RFID tags in her shoes, but gave credit to a psychic medium," but it's pretty close.
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6. darker+V8[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:15:21
>>neonat+h
Yikes. That good faith exception example is particularly troubling. I think the only way that should be construed as constitutional is if, when the illegal search was uncovered, it resulted in serious consequences for the offender. But I highly doubt that happens. System is broken.
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7. Smoosh+ja[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:27:45
>>neonat+h
I'm also suspicious that the article keeps emphasizing "amateur photos given to authorities" as if they are deliberately steering away from the term "police surveillance footage" or perhaps "images obtained by scanning social media".

While I have no issue with police investigating lawbreakers, the public should know what the police are doing and how, so they can be confident that police are correctly following the law while executing their duty.

But perhaps I'm reading too much into that wording, and in fact some protesters who took photos thought the arson was over-reach, so they supplied the photos to the police.

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8. JKCalh+sc[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:46:45
>>neonat+h
My thought as well. I did not know there was a name for it.

Thank you.

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9. elliek+Yc[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:49:51
>>Smoosh+ja
You’re definitely right. This twitter thread uses excerpts from the charging documents to explain the steps the FBI took: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1273098216775524355.html
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10. donmcr+yd[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-17 23:56:05
>>neonat+h
Yeah. It’s weird how I haven’t heard the word Stingray at all lately.
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11. teduna+pg[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:22:27
>>donmcr+yd
Stingray is the old model. The new model is called Crossbow.
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12. icebra+hh[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 00:29:10
>>elliek+Yc
That thread suddenly disappeared, and one which is claimed to be a "reconstructed" copy in another profile has disappeared too, it's so weird. It's not like the original PDF isn't online still.
13. vmcept+Ui[view] [source] 2020-06-18 00:46:12
>>millzl+(OP)
they went to a seller of it on etsy
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14. catsda+3D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 15:01:36
>>neonat+h
I think the more plausable explaination is a FBI agent watched a few videos online. Ran a cellphone location/time query. Looked through the results and referenced owners drivers license photos. Then tried to find some way to explain it without tipping off rioters to not carry their phones with them.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/02/07/google-location-pol...

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15. mindsl+uG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-18 15:21:26
>>catsda+3D1
In that explanation, this purported investigative chain would still require just as much work to create. That's a lot of effort just to deflect from cell phone surveillance, especially for a cop - an aggro type personality would just rely on downplaying the cell angle in the media, rather than spending time coming up with a plausible excuse.

If there's an obfuscation of the actual investigation here, I'd guess it's more a hiding of highly automated tools that process open source intelligence, probably by policy of the federal agency with the tool. Imagine a FBI/DEA/NSA tool that links and summarizes social media activity based on identities. So facial recognition + cell database -> trail of pictures to craft a link-narrative, without the work of having to dig much or do automated facial recognition. Tangentially I wouldn't be surprised if declaring "antifa" a "terrorist" organization is actually an internal dog whistle that blesses the use of XKEYSCORE etc against American citizens.

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