It doesn't seem like a very interesting argument to have on HN, though. People don't get that when "protesting" doesn't work (also "advocating", and "voting”), what's left is essentially "rioting." This is in spite of the fact that people here love the 4 boxes of democracy: the soap box, ballot box, jury box, and ammo box. I've got news for you: if you're reaching for the ammo box, you're "rioting."