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I definitely think this line of reasoning pays off well, and is isn't really an "extreme example". The point is to establish the "sometimes it's the right thing to do", to unequivocally prove that the discussion should be re-framed.

I've posited the same argument around violence. Most people, in my experience, wouldn't fault a Jew for violently resisting the Nazis. In fact, many resistance groups are held in very high regard. So immediately the questions necessarily moves from "is violence sometimes allowed?" to "when is violence allowed?". Which, if nothing else, is very much a more interesting discussion to have.

>>herbst+(OP)
It doesn't seem like a very interesting argument to have on HN, though. People don't get that when "protesting" doesn't work (also "advocating", and "voting”), what's left is essentially "rioting." This is in spite of the fact that people here love the 4 boxes of democracy: the soap box, ballot box, jury box, and ammo box. I've got news for you: if you're reaching for the ammo box, you're "rioting."