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1. jlokie+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-15 20:50:17
Is religion a choice?

I'm sure many people who believe in $DEITY, and the duties which follow from this, do not see "belief" as a choice they are making.

replies(2): >>afiori+x1 >>kelnos+Fc
2. afiori+x1[view] [source] 2020-06-15 20:59:38
>>jlokie+(OP)
I'm sure many people who believe in $IDEOLOGY, and the duties which follow from this, do not see "belief" as a choice they are making.
3. kelnos+Fc[view] [source] 2020-06-15 22:04:20
>>jlokie+(OP)
You've gotten downvoted for some reason, but I think you're right. The religious people I know could no more choose not to believe than I can choose to believe. Religious belief or non-belief comes as a response to life's experiences, heavily influenced by the level of indoctrination inflicted by parents when we're young.

When I was 11 or 12, I realized I didn't believe in god (I didn't know the term "atheist" at the time). My parents were Catholic, and I was forced to attend CCD weekly during the school year (the Catholic version of "Sunday School") in addition to weekly Mass. I tried so hard to believe in a god because I didn't want to disappoint or anger my parents, and I wanted to fit in with my peer group. I was trying to make a choice to believe, but that's just not a choice you can make. You either believe, or you don't.

In hindsight I'm glad I failed to choose to believe, but at the time I agonized over my non-belief daily, thinking there was something wrong with me.

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4. sukilo+Jk[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 23:03:13
>>kelnos+Fc
Once we assume free will doesn't exist, these debates are moot.
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5. umvi+2p[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 23:41:32
>>sukilo+Jk
It's not useful to assume free will doesn't exist for this very reason. All debates are moot. Democracy is moot.
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