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1. socrat+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:22:22
" They're trained with guns to aim for parts of the body that make it less likely to kill a target instantly or quickly and instead incapacitates them (of course, with a gun you can never know but you can alter the odds) "

This is the third time I've read this in the comments but I can't seem to find any info on "shoot to incapacitate" online. I'm not doubting it, I'm just looking to collect information regarding the topic to share with others. Do you have anything to corroborate this training method?

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2. hef198+f3[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:33:32
>>socrat+(OP)
From top of my head, what I was told from officers (my dad and others), police isn't conditioned to ai I'm for the center of mass. They rather aim for the legs and such. SWAT being an exception, of course, depending on circumstances.

It is still shooting at people, so potentially deadly. But less so than putting 6 bullets into someone's chest.

3. zaarn+Vz1[view] [source] 2020-06-16 05:14:44
>>socrat+(OP)
<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffengebrauch_der_Polizei_in_... This page is a good intro if you use Google Translate. The main keyword is "Final and Fatal Shot" (Finaler Rettungsschuss) which is what the police is trained for to only use as a last resort and gets schooled on when it's legally acceptable.

<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finaler_Rettungsschuss> Details this a bit better; most shots fired by the german police aim to incapacitate an opponent or are fired in a perceived or real emergency situation, the prevention of crimes and prevention of getaway.

The difference between the mentioned cases and the "final and fatal shot" is that the later is used by the police officer with the express and only intent to kill. There are various requirements, mainly that it must be the only viable way to prevent lethal or extensive harm to others.

Please note that the english pages are not as extensive or talk about the US situation so they're less useful.

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4. hef198+dF1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-16 06:25:25
>>zaarn+Vz1
Thak you! That was the one I had in mind!
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