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Merriam-Webster definition of concentration camp: “a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners”

Japanese internment camps from WW2 easily meet that definition.

I think immigration detention centers easily meet that definition too: they hold large numbers of individuals whose only crime is being “the other”.

>>abtinf+(OP)
I'm pretty sure that's it's criminal in every country on earth to violate the immigration laws of that country

>>google+v8
And if the laws of your country are unjust?

>>gerbal+Ja
Get a majority to vote in politicians to change them. If your goal is open borders then you will probably have a tough time.

>>google+v8
No. And it almost isn't in the US:

"Being illegally present in the U.S. has always been a civil, not criminal, violation of the INA[Immigration and Naturalization Act]"

"Criminal violations of the INA, on the other hand, include felonies and misdemeanors and are prosecuted in federal district courts. These types of violations include the bringing in and harboring of certain undocumented aliens, aliens (INA §275), ..."

As can already be deduced from the above, illegal entry is a misdemeanor. Only the bringing in, harbouring, and certain specific aggravation conditions raise it to a felony.

(From https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33351.pdf)

>>abtinf+(OP)
But they are not supposed to _stay_ there; ICE job in this case is to either avoid them ending up there or letting them out.

The _concentration_ part is missing. Without condoning anything of whatever wrongdoing ICE is doing all the people detained decided personally to embark in a trip that involved that risk.

Concentration camps need to have a concept of raking up a chunk of the population and removing them from society, as in concentrating a part of the population. Prisons are more of a concentration camp than ICE detention centers.

>>IfOnly+Cp
It is absolutely a criminal violation. Also there are 2 different acts: the crossing of the border (which even a US citizen can be charged for crossing illegally) and being in the country without permission.

Also misdemeanors are still considered serious crimes. I don't get where this hand-waving "because it's just a misdemeanor" comes from.