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1. dsr_+Nk[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:51:13
>>Xordev+(OP)
Corporations are people. If they don't act ethically, we can't expect people to act ethically.

Ending a contract with an agency that runs concentration camps is good. Better, though, is to not accept any contracts with any government that runs concentration camps.

Small steps are good. Big steps are better.

PS: great fear from all paying customers that run concentration camps that an internet mob could separate them from their code at any time -- sounds like a good policy to me. Not as good as "Don't be evil", but reasonably close.

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2. TheAda+ym[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:56:14
>>dsr_+Nk
Your choice of language by saying "concentration camps" is unproductively hyperbolic and reminiscent of Nazis killing Jews in WW2. People found to have been here illegally are being kept in detention centers until deportation or trial. Nobody is getting gassed or burned in ovens.
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3. abtinf+Nq[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:11:52
>>TheAda+ym
Merriam-Webster definition of concentration camp: “a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners”

Japanese internment camps from WW2 easily meet that definition.

I think immigration detention centers easily meet that definition too: they hold large numbers of individuals whose only crime is being “the other”.

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4. google+iz[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:43:14
>>abtinf+Nq
I'm pretty sure that's it's criminal in every country on earth to violate the immigration laws of that country
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5. IfOnly+pQ[view] [source] 2020-06-15 18:57:44
>>google+iz
No. And it almost isn't in the US:

"Being illegally present in the U.S. has always been a civil, not criminal, violation of the INA[Immigration and Naturalization Act]"

"Criminal violations of the INA, on the other hand, include felonies and misdemeanors and are prosecuted in federal district courts. These types of violations include the bringing in and harboring of certain undocumented aliens, aliens (INA §275), ..."

As can already be deduced from the above, illegal entry is a misdemeanor. Only the bringing in, harbouring, and certain specific aggravation conditions raise it to a felony.

(From https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33351.pdf)

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