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I don't think society is looking for police to be an average good. That is, we're not looking to optimize on the statistical mean of police interactions. We are concerned particularly about the tails. The outliers are the problem, particularly when they're not as uncommon as we expect them to be. You may call them propaganda, but that's a strange thing to post on an enumerated list of recorded evidence.

>>lvs+(OP)
> We are concerned particularly about the tails.

That's not my impression when people are openly calling for defunding or disbanding police departments. Those who are concerned with the tails are the sane voices drowning in a sea of insanity these days.

I agree that the outliers are the problem, but how uncommon they are cannot be determined in this way.

>>lvs+(OP)
I agree, but also, calling them "outliers" is exactly the foregone conclusion that people in the streets are questioning.

>>lazyjo+O
Don't get too caught up on the definitions of words. What they are arguing is that many things have been attempted to rein in the tails, and they have all failed. An engineer has to look at a series of failures and find new solutions, not the same old ones that keep failing. Sometimes that means redesign from scratch.