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1. alkona+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-15 10:01:21
> a police that's tough

Tough is having courage and compassion while being firm. Tough not being an insecure bully. Please don't use "tough" when relating to US police brutality.

Having a decent police force is a solved problem. Just look around for a country with a decent relationship between population and law enforcements. Look what made that happen (Was it 2-3 year police training? mental health screens? No qualified immunity? Central/federal authority governing all police forces? perrhaps ALL OF THE ABOVE?).

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2. pnako+U4[view] [source] 2020-06-15 10:50:23
>>alkona+(OP)
Do you really think we can apply the policing methods of Iceland or Japan to the areas of Mexico where you have cartels chopping up people? Crime and violence are not homogeneous around the world, so I don't think police can be either.

See how far you go with a compassionate police in Brazil.

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3. alkona+wa[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 11:47:54
>>pnako+U4
I think this is a false dichotomy. "Police brutality" isn't when police use force when required, it's when they use more force than required.

> Crime and violence are not homogeneous around the world

It's also a bit defeatist to say that somehow the US is infested with crime and violence and that must always be the case. This isn't a problem that will be solved in just one or two generations. Attitudes take a long time to change, but perhaps Police culture is part of the propblem and not just the solution.

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