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1. carlin+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-11 19:33:39
you can find more information about the movement here 8toabolition.com
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2. catalo+vp[view] [source] 2020-06-11 22:59:04
>>carlin+(OP)
This is disappointingly sparse on details and does not seem to be a nuanced position. It's calling for the eventual abolition of police, not merely scaling back their funding:

> The end goal of these reforms is not to create better, friendlier, or more community-oriented police or prisons. Instead, we hope to build toward a society without police or prisons, where communities are equipped to provide for their safety and wellbeing.

When somebody breaks into my home, I don't need a counselor; I need some sort of investigator or detective who can track that man down and make sure he doesn't do it again. Maybe that guy needs a counselor instead of a prison sentence, I'm [skeptical of but] amenable to that idea, but who does the grunt work of figuring how who did it and where he's at? Who brings him to trial, where his guilt or innocence can be assessed? I can't find any answers for this on that site, so it's hard for me to take seriously.

This document also mentions permanently closing all jails and freeing everybody from involuntary detention, etc. When a man refuses to stop beating his wife, where should he be put? I don't see any answers for this. Is the idea really to create a utopia where people no longer do shitty things to other people? Because if so, that's a pipe dream, not a serious proposal.

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