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Just, Devil's Advocate, but do you think the accident could have been the police kicking in the door of the wrong apartment? The boyfriend shooting at the police does not seem accidental, nor does it seem in any way wrong to my mind. If the officers had kicked in the door of the right apartment, the boyfriend would not have tried to take the officers out. Again, a completely appropriate and well reasoned response in my own opinion.

If you enter private property forcibly, you should expect to be shot at. If you shoot back while having forcibly gained illegal entry to private property, you've committed a crime. It seems fairly open and shut to me. The only hold up is police and court system corruption along with a healthy dose of good old fashioned racism. Again, just my opinion.

>>bilbo0+(OP)
> If you enter private property forcibly, you should expect to be shot at.

For someone outside the US this is such a crazy statement.

>>Kiro+m7
If the point of contention guns specifically, or people defending their homes to the point of killing someone?

America has more than just a few home invasions and murders. If someone is trying to break into your home, especially at night, there's a high chance that that person is not only willing to maim or kill you, but planning to do so. America has around 1 million home invasions per year and help isn't always nearby. Waiting can easily result in the victim being killed.

The man who shot at police here was worried that someone would end up killing him or his girlfriend. Unfortunately, he was right.

>>fiblye+39
It's a matter of culture. This is how the average European imagines an encounter with a criminal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woO1Cs6c-oo

>>gridlo+2g
I see that even criminals in Europe have manners. Until we figure how to replace domestic criminals with European ones, I'd prefer to keep 2A.

>>bilbo0+(OP)
i agree with what you said. the entire ordeal was an accident on both sides but my question remained. is there a shred of evidence it was racially motivated since it’s getting lumped in with BLM

>>alkibi+I01
That's not what I said. The responsibility for the entire ordeal falls squarely, and solely, on the police. It was not "on both sides". It is not an accident, nor in any way inappropriate, for a man to defend his woman from illegal armed intruders. So the boyfriend made no mistakes at all, and committed no crimes.

You seem to be attempting to put forth a narrative that the boyfriend somehow made a mistake. Probably in some misguided attempt to support the police in this incident. But you're not helping the cause of LEO's right now. You're actually doing enormous harm to it. When you make mistakes you admit it, you hold people accountable, and then you fix the issues that lead to the mistake. That inspires confidence. The response of you and the Louisville PD and court system inspires not only lack of trust and lack of confidence, but also widespread animosity.

>>alkibi+I01
This incident is actually so much worse than the George Floyd incident in my mind. The police force as an institution decided that it would be okay to bust down the door of the home without identification and with guns drawn, knowing that in such an operation it is very possible that someone could get seriously hurt. In the end, it basically comes down to the law enforcement institution deciding that the lives and safety of the occupants of the home just don't matter that much.