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>>This is before we get into whether we really even want "those people"

this is the key point. I have known many people that would like to have been a "police officer" in the sense that I believe many people think policing should be. After finding out it is more like the military than servicing the community they dropped the pursuit

More recently I have even seen many Former Military people shy away from going into the policing because the paramilitary tactics and procedures of modern militarized policing are in many ways MORE extreme than any rules of engagement that the military employed in their theaters of operation (i.e US Police treat citizens of this nation worse than the US Military does when we invade a nation)

Any Police Reform that does not involve MASSIVE demilitarization of the police force is a waste of time

>>syshum+(OP)
A big part of this that I don't see addressed: huge numbers of LEO's are sent to Israel to train.

I don't even have to say anything further. It speaks for itself.

>>armini+8c
I think in Atlanta the instructors came from Israel to the police force.

>>armini+8c
Israelis excel in the defense industry and their mandatory military service means few people with physical and perceptual aptitude are untrained.

I assume you are implying an Israeli cannot be a good police trainer because they occupy Palestine, but I disagree.

>>112358+lU
No, because they are notoriously violent.

>>jacobu+uZ
Sorry, you’re saying Israelis are violent as a people? Or the IDF is, or some other organization?

>>112358+x01
IDF or whatever the branch is called which is doing the torturing.

>>112358+lU
>>Israelis excel in the defense industry and their mandatory military service

Exactly, this means they are training police in MILITARY tactics, the entire point of this conversation was that the police need to be DEMILITARIZED, having them trained by the IDF is exact what we SHOULD NOT be doing