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1. rtz12+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 08:55:55
"Antifa" is not just "anti-fascism". It is short for "Antifaschistische Aktion" and is an umbrella term for loosely related groups of extremist Anarchists/Communists who share the same symbolism, rethoric and tactics.

This is the definition of the word, no matter how much lefists try to whitewash the term and shift the overton window.

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2. rtz12+g2[view] [source] 2020-06-02 09:21:29
>>rtz12+(OP)
Those are some quick downvotes although I literally wrote the definition of "Antifa" that you can find on Wikipedia. Some people really don't like the truth.
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3. junke+w4[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 09:49:10
>>rtz12+g2
Maybe because you are cherry-picking one definition, as-if what matters is what the term used to mean 75 years ago?

Wikipedia points to many resources about Antifa movements, starting from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa

And you only care to pick one narrow definition.

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4. mercer+pg[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 12:04:28
>>rtz12+g2
The dictionary !=== truth. At best it's truthy. Wikipedia probably even less so when it comes to political stuff.

I know a number of people in various countries who participate in Antifa action and who, while definitely left of center, are by no means anarchists or communists, and not even close to Marxists-Leninists or whatever other hard-left groups there are.

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5. rtz12+3F1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 19:46:45
>>junke+w4
> what matters is what the term used to mean 75 years ago?

You got it backwards.

The only definition from that page that is not related to some extremist marxist/anarchist movement is this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

And even that one uses the logo of the Antifaschistische Aktion. None of the other historic Antifascist movements described in that article are in any way relevant today.

Today, "Antifa" is synonymous with "Antifaschistische Aktion".

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6. junke+M02[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 21:54:10
>>rtz12+3F1
> The only definition from that page that is not related to some extremist marxist/anarchist movement is this article

Why is it important for you to filter some definitions out?

> And even that one uses the logo of the Antifaschistische Aktion. None of the other historic Antifascist movements described in that article are in any way relevant today.

There are historical reasons that explain why Antifa caught up as a name, what logo activists use, etc. The abbreviation did not change, it still stands for "anti-fascim actions" today, or "Antifaschistische Aktion" in German.

But you are saying Antifa is synonymous, ie. equal to "Antifaschistische Aktion", not for what the words mean, but in a literal way, to restrict the definition. No matter how the name came to life, the spirit behind it is broader that the name; nowadays it is a perfectly fine shortcut for anti-fascism.

I mean, dictionaries tend to agree on this one:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/antifa

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Antifa

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/antifa

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