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>>aspenm+(OP)
Blaming the boogy man of White Nationalists, Russia, or outside outside agitators is a way to shift blame by politicians and an easy scapegoat. Amusingly the governor of Minnesota, and a big city MN mayor blamed vandalism & lootingrioters as being the work of people who were all from out of state, thereby parroting Trump's same line (or he theirs).

They (not Trump of course) had to walk it back when it turned out not to be true.

Is there some outside groups posing as others, possibly, but to blame a majority of problems on them is just BS.

>>bruceb+K5
The problem is antifa has become the new boogy man for the GOP, and they've been pushing this narrative extremely hard. It's apparent they've identified their enemy, but this approach has me worried that "First they came for the antifa..." might not be far off.

I see a lot of mischaracterization of what is a category, not a group. From what I can tell antifa is anti-fascism, and somewhat characterized by people willing to take direct action.

>>epakai+ho
"Antifa" is not just "anti-fascism". It is short for "Antifaschistische Aktion" and is an umbrella term for loosely related groups of extremist Anarchists/Communists who share the same symbolism, rethoric and tactics.

This is the definition of the word, no matter how much lefists try to whitewash the term and shift the overton window.

>>rtz12+zD
Those are some quick downvotes although I literally wrote the definition of "Antifa" that you can find on Wikipedia. Some people really don't like the truth.

>>rtz12+PF
Maybe because you are cherry-picking one definition, as-if what matters is what the term used to mean 75 years ago?

Wikipedia points to many resources about Antifa movements, starting from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa

And you only care to pick one narrow definition.

>>junke+5I
> what matters is what the term used to mean 75 years ago?

You got it backwards.

The only definition from that page that is not related to some extremist marxist/anarchist movement is this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

And even that one uses the logo of the Antifaschistische Aktion. None of the other historic Antifascist movements described in that article are in any way relevant today.

Today, "Antifa" is synonymous with "Antifaschistische Aktion".

>>rtz12+Ci2
> The only definition from that page that is not related to some extremist marxist/anarchist movement is this article

Why is it important for you to filter some definitions out?

> And even that one uses the logo of the Antifaschistische Aktion. None of the other historic Antifascist movements described in that article are in any way relevant today.

There are historical reasons that explain why Antifa caught up as a name, what logo activists use, etc. The abbreviation did not change, it still stands for "anti-fascim actions" today, or "Antifaschistische Aktion" in German.

But you are saying Antifa is synonymous, ie. equal to "Antifaschistische Aktion", not for what the words mean, but in a literal way, to restrict the definition. No matter how the name came to life, the spirit behind it is broader that the name; nowadays it is a perfectly fine shortcut for anti-fascism.

I mean, dictionaries tend to agree on this one:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/antifa

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Antifa

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/antifa