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1. Animal+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:23:26
It all depends on where the violence is directed.

People are protesting police killing a black civilian. Now, if Antifa were to show up, who would they attack, the protesters or the police? The police. If the alt-right showed up, who would they attack? The protesters. Well, who's getting attacked? Not the protesters. So that fits with it being Antifa rather than the alt-right...

... unless it's a false flag, or alt-right accelerationists. In that case, it could be either.

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2. jachee+j[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:25:47
>>Animal+(OP)
Here in Pittsburgh, it was literally the latter.
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3. Animal+a1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 01:32:36
>>jachee+j
Sorry, literally the latter what? Violence aimed at protesters? Or accelerationists?
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4. happyt+R4[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:02:54
>>Animal+(OP)
You're implying that attacking a police officer, by definition, makes you antifa, which is more than a little convenient.
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5. jachee+q5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 02:06:36
>>Animal+a1
False-flag instigators, intentionally escalating in bad faith to provoke a violent response from protesters and police alike.

EDIT - Watch the instigating jerk flip off the protesters who dared confront him as he triggers what would become a failure cascade of protests that had been peaceful for hours.

https://reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/gtn3ps/video_of_the...

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6. depend+i7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 02:23:32
>>jachee+q5
What exactly makes you think that this person was a false-flag instigator?
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7. bregma+F7[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:26:47
>>Animal+(OP)
I believe the phrase you're looking for is "agents provocateur."
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8. _y5hn+kb[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 02:58:08
>>happyt+R4
We have always been at war with antifa. 1984
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9. jachee+pC[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 07:26:57
>>depend+i7
The fact that he flips off the protesters who try to stop him and continues instigating until the police escalate.

Did you watch the video?

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10. depend+JC[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 07:31:48
>>jachee+pC
> The fact that he flips off the protesters who try to stop him

Because he wants to break the police car obviously.

> continues instigating until the police escalate

More like until he is shooed off. I do not see the police in the video at all actually. Regardless, would that not be the best idea if you are going to cause trouble? You would not want to be arrested after all.

And yeah, I did watch the video.

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11. Animal+DE1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 16:04:18
>>happyt+R4
I deny you the right to put words in my mouth. That is not what I am saying, nor implying.

I am saying that, in the circumstances where a white police officer killed an unarmed black person, Antifa's ideology is to be on the side of the victim, not on the side of the police. When there are protests about that death, Antifa's ideology is to be on the side of the protesters, not on the side of the police. And Antifa isn't afraid to mix it up in the streets. If they're going to be fighting in that situation, they're going to be fighting the police, not the protesters.

That does not imply that all who fight the police are Antifa. Logic doesn't work that way.

What I am saying is that, if outsiders showed up, and if those outsiders were not running a false flag operation, then their behavior fits that of Antifa better than that of the alt-right.

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12. jachee+Odf[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-07 04:11:57
>>depend+JC
The whole point of the entire thread (which you seem to have missed) is that the protesters were peaceful and wanted to stay that way, and this guy came in and screwed that up, while dressed like the very force that's supposed to help defend protesters and keep things peaceful.

That's the very definition of false-flag instigation.

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