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1. jachee+c5[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:05:50
>>headal+(OP)
I'm seeing false accusations of Antifa starting violence all over the place. It's the right-wing's boogieman-du-jours, and likely false-flag representation at best.

Edit: Downvoters– tell me why you're downvoting this?

Why would Antifa purposefully take actions that would deliberately cause an armed police response to otherwise-peaceful protests?

Edit 2 since I can no longer post responses: Clearly the misinformation campaign continues alive and well here on HN. Dare to defend those with less privilege and get downvoted to hell.

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2. Animal+n7[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:23:26
>>jachee+c5
It all depends on where the violence is directed.

People are protesting police killing a black civilian. Now, if Antifa were to show up, who would they attack, the protesters or the police? The police. If the alt-right showed up, who would they attack? The protesters. Well, who's getting attacked? Not the protesters. So that fits with it being Antifa rather than the alt-right...

... unless it's a false flag, or alt-right accelerationists. In that case, it could be either.

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3. happyt+ec[view] [source] 2020-06-02 02:02:54
>>Animal+n7
You're implying that attacking a police officer, by definition, makes you antifa, which is more than a little convenient.
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4. Animal+0M1[view] [source] 2020-06-02 16:04:18
>>happyt+ec
I deny you the right to put words in my mouth. That is not what I am saying, nor implying.

I am saying that, in the circumstances where a white police officer killed an unarmed black person, Antifa's ideology is to be on the side of the victim, not on the side of the police. When there are protests about that death, Antifa's ideology is to be on the side of the protesters, not on the side of the police. And Antifa isn't afraid to mix it up in the streets. If they're going to be fighting in that situation, they're going to be fighting the police, not the protesters.

That does not imply that all who fight the police are Antifa. Logic doesn't work that way.

What I am saying is that, if outsiders showed up, and if those outsiders were not running a false flag operation, then their behavior fits that of Antifa better than that of the alt-right.

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