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1. makomk+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-01 21:12:31
Yeah, pretty much everyone was on the same page about that. What was incredibly and predictably divisive is burning down cities as a response to it, and naturally the American media have been spending a lot of effort fanning those flames.
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2. Consul+u3[view] [source] 2020-06-01 21:28:25
>>makomk+(OP)
The worst part is not going to be the brutality that is coming when police/military put a stop to this. That will be horrific, but temporary.

Six months from now, is the average white American small business owner going to be more or less likely to hire a black person? That's the fucked up shit that is going to last another decade. That's the stuff that maintains generational poverty. And there's a thousand other subtle, unspoken things like that which are going to broaden our divide.

replies(2): >>makomk+I6 >>mydong+vz
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3. makomk+I6[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 21:44:21
>>Consul+u3
As far as I can tell, the people burning everything down aren't even particularly likely to be black, efforts to spin this as some kind of necessary fight back against racism by people who've been suffering not withstanding. The folks cheering it on and advocating for this to their audiences definitely aren't - they're largely white, middle-class techies and journos and other well-off educated folks who aren't worried about their own communities burning.

The real pain - at least on the inter-generational poverty and deprivation side - is that in six months, the average American small business isn't going to exist in heavily-black neighbourhoods, and that probably won't change much in six years, and other businesses are probably going to be pretty thin on the ground there too. Apparently some places never recovered what they lost in the sixties race riots.

Though I expect that the consequences of the police actions to stop this will also be anything but temporary. It seems to take years of careful work to rebuild trust between police and the community they serve, and to restructure policing to be less hostile and dangerous.

replies(2): >>Consul+R7 >>austin+zl
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4. Consul+R7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 21:50:29
>>makomk+I6
I agree with you that it seems the people sparking the looting/fires/etc seem to be mostly white. I just don't think that will matter in the minds of the average person who barely watches the news. To the extent that they are watching anything, they will see tons of videos of black people committing crimes on social media.
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5. austin+zl[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 23:16:37
>>makomk+I6
I have noticed only one common demographic among rioters: age.
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6. mydong+Ou[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 00:31:28
>>Consul+R7
What makes you believe that the looters are mostly white? I mean, the people you are talking against, they have all the video evidence they need of black people and others looting and causing destruction that they need. What do you have?

I'd really like to see some. I've been having some cognitive dissonance lately. Some portions of the media are telling me that the looters are white supremacists, but unless there are substantial amount of black/brown white supremacists in this country, the video evidence says otherwise...

replies(2): >>Consul+sF >>mister+CG
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7. mydong+vz[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 01:11:13
>>Consul+u3
I don't know why you single out white business owners. ALL business owners should be looking into social media history and criminal history of every person they want to hire. There's nothing racist about figuring out if your potential employee has previously taken part of riots and looting to make a hiring decision. It's fucked up indeed, but hey...they made their choices. Jordans and gucci now, future on hold.
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8. scarfa+PE[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 01:54:50
>>mydong+vz
Looking into “criminal history” might be fine if the justice system didn’t systematically make sure minorities get harsher sentences than Whites.
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9. Consul+sF[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 01:59:01
>>mydong+Ou
The operative word in what I said was "sparking". It was a white guy who broke the glass at autozone, which kicked off the looting in Minneapolis. It was a white guy who was breaking up the sidewalk so people had rocks to throw before other protesters tackled him and handed him over to police. It was white guys who "stumbled upon" a bunch of bricks in one video and unwrapped them. Those are just the examples off the top of my head.
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10. mister+CG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 02:07:31
>>mydong+Ou
Small but important distinction: the people sparking the looting/fires/etc seem to be mostly white.

And the only place you're going to have a chance to see the truth on this is in conspiracy forums and on Twitter. How trustworthy is it? Well, it is typically video footage, and it is highly unlikely to be coordinated reporting, so judge for yourself how seriously you want to trust it. But I have watched and read lots on this, and anything I have seen is that the people stirring up shit and instigating violence or destruction, are white, and the people trying to stop them verbally or physically, are black or white.

Here is a good livestream that typically shows 5 to 9 streams simultaneously, depending on where the action is. This is as close to knowing reality as you are going to get. If you watch the "trustworthy" news media, you are maybe going to get some very small amount of truth, but you also run a very big chance of getting a framed version of reality that is often the opposite of what is true.

Look for yourself, think for yourself. Do not outsource these things to authorities who have well demonstrated that they are untrustworthy.

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11. ativzz+dN[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 03:04:52
>>austin+zl
Rioters are almost always young. Especially now, when many young people are unemployed (Corona) or out of school for the summer.
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