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no, trying to dismiss the point as emotion or leaning on name-calling are non-sequiturs. people are mad, rightfully so, and being good little citizens doesn't change anything.

you demonstrate my exact point: obama cares about elections and the slow, meandering civil process. he's insulated from the consequences of having that position, unlike the people on the streets.

>>clairi+(OP)
Perhaps some of your criticism is valid, but would you rather have Obama or Trump?

I think we rarely can choose between perfect and imperfect; we have to choose between two imperfects.

Both on the left and on the right, many people have to hold their nose and vote for the person they despise.

>>hkai+e2
and the problem there is that the system is designed to present only 2 imperfect choices, so that the 2 parties can seize and hold power. they'd rather begrudgingly share power with each other than let any others join them in the sandbox. and both parties have been co-opted to serve the wealthy, not the people, hence their imperfection.

>>clairi+74
I think that level of disillusionment is a bit dangerous, because I've seen people starting to support the Chinese way of governance because they say the American one is broken.

>>hkai+r6
please don't presume a state of mind. a lazy response might be "obliviously complacent" and then we get nowhere. you could leave out the direct reference, such as "I think disillusionment is a bit dangerous, because..." (although you still need to tie in the relevance of such a statement) and still make a similar argument that better elicits a charitable response.

but that argument is presumptuous and fallacious as well. being disillusioned doesn't lead most peole to support single-party, state-controlled communism. being insulated and comfortable does lead to complacency and being out-of-touch however.

>>hkai+r6
Haha how delusional do you have to be to think the US is worse than a communist kleptocracy that dabbles in death camps?

>>gotoel+Zm
Because we also have a kletptocracy where the government is designed to serve the wealthy, it's not about being worse by any margin, it's about pointing out what needs to change.