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This is a serious question - how do we roll it back? What is our chance?

>>tropdr+(OP)
The squeaky wheel gets the grease - contact your representatives. If you contact them about an issue enough they’ll actually get in touch and ask for your input when the issue finally starts getting traction.

I think it goes without saying but they’re far more likely to listen if you’re polite and suggest possible solutions instead of just complaining.

>>elliek+02
Specifically: call them on the phone.

Go to town halls if / when they have them.

And vote.

>>elliek+02
I'm glad that the Minneapolis folks have skipped this completely useless advice.

>>karmel+y8
This implies absolute faith in the system. What if the system is flawed or corrupt?

>>alpha_+ld
Then we have to figure out how to use whatever power we have within this corrupt system to decorrupt it.

The "fun" answer, to burn the system down, does not leave a better system in its place. The individual components are left to scramble to develop their own systems, which in the absence of strong moral leadership, are inevitably just as as corrupt as the larger system they came from.

>>elliek+02
> contact your representatives

In California, the correct answer would have been to fucking vote out Feinstein. She practically built the surveillance state.

>>rabidr+me
Are you aware of any noteworthy initiatives underway to decorrupt the system though? I often read that this is "just" all we have to do, but who's going to do it? "The System"? Democracy? AI? Rationalism? Religion? Our moms?

>>tropdr+(OP)
Support Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://eff.org.

>>tropdr+(OP)
Limit the power of the state? Create incentives and tight feedback loops where the government has to act in the interest of all the people not the just the elites/itself?

>>tropdr+(OP)
Some would say when politics fall, turn to technology.

We as technologists should promote strong encryption for everything.

Is it a good chance? No. But it's a chance.

>>tropdr+(OP)
You can't by the conventional means i.e. by voting. The military intelligence industry complex has evolved into something that ordinary people don't understand and ordinary officials can't control. It's already too late to vote them away.