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https://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/3460872978
And this is the track of the drone over Minneapolis, which seemed to veer off around the time the story came out:
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
A police station was burned today.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/protests-looting-erupt-...
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...
> https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/136371f4-aa38-476f-bd9a-...
On page 12:
"There was no improper use of an unmanned aerial vehicle. It appears to have had no bearing on these charges being contested here."
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/protesters-take-mi...
https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildi...
This is my home. I visit many of these businesses. I do business with two owners on that list. There are groups of people out here who, yes, are looting to loot and burning to burn.
I understand burning down the precinct though. I'm not upset about that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Disobedience_(Thoreau)
"[i]t is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right.... Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice."
ETA:
> Edit2: there is a world of difference between reasonable civil disobedience and firebombing your local Target.
What is "reasonable civil disobedience"? If that Target is only in the neighborhood because it's an experimental LP store put in an incredibly impoverished area so that they can develop better techniques for putting people of color in prison, is it suddenly reasonable? https://twitter.com/IanColdwater/status/1265867904844693505
Who are we to make that call, in either direction?
Target is complicit in this systemic disease; I have zero sympathy for them.
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/Local-police-...
But really, there's little difference between a lot of civilian and light military aircraft. The Bell 206 that your local news station probably flies around was developed as a military helicopter.
There are people who want to destroy things. See: https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/1266127105621983238?... for a the current manchild of the hour. It often cascades from individuals like these.
He may be the poster boy of the chaos but I assure you, as someone who has been in these streets, he is not alone. Please, come join us and you can see for yourself.
There are countless innocent business owners who were ransacked, who were had their livelihoods changed that would beg to differ with you.
I understand the concept of being loud to be heard. I understand making a statement. I understand burning down the precinct.
What I don't understand is looting independent pharmacies, liquor stores, and restaurants to steal inventory and merchandize and break into safes.
https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildi...
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/gsum4h/minority_...
for example: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-...
Who is President is very much matters. You clearly see this in the Reagan/Bush/Clinton years, where mass incarceration was in vogue, at the direction of the Attorney General (William Barr), who is part of the executive branch, leading the charge.
CBP has used drones with FAA approval within the US since 2006; which does not included any use prior to 2006 which remains classified.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-rap...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/spies-in-t...
"There was an armed standoff with police,[5] who lobbed tear gas canisters at the building. The MOVE members fired at them and a gunfight with semi-automatic and automatic firearms ensued.[32] Police went through over ten thousand rounds of ammunition before Commissioner Sambor ordered that the compound be bombed.[32] From a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter, Philadelphia Police Department Lt. Frank Powell proceeded to drop two one-pound bombs (which the police referred to as "entry devices"[31]) made of FBI-supplied Tovex, a dynamite substitute, targeting a fortified, bunker-like cubicle on the roof of the house.[29]"
Police helicopters are modified civilian aircraft and yet they have been used by the police, through improvised means, to bomb people. The drone over Minneapolis is a MQ-9 reaper, aka "predator B", hunter-killer UAV.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper
"In 2006, the then–Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force General T. Michael Moseley said: "We've moved from using UAVs primarily in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance roles before Operation Iraqi Freedom, to a true hunter-killer role with the Reaper."[6]
The MQ-9 is a larger, heavier, and more capable aircraft than the earlier General Atomics MQ-1 Predator; it can be controlled by the same ground systems used to control MQ-1s. The Reaper has a 950-shaft-horsepower (712 kW) turboprop engine (compared to the Predator's 115 hp (86 kW) piston engine). The greater power allows the Reaper to carry 15 times more ordnance payload and cruise at about three times the speed of the MQ-1.[6] "
The tail number in this example below is _AE0B60 and registration is n/a
Here's an example screenshot of what I mean https://imgur.com/a/A1p4N2c
Does anyone what this is, or why they don't have 'normal' registration info on adsb?
http://www.milradiocomms.com/search_mil_hexcodes.php?type_of...
https://www.army.mil/article/180593/last_uh_1_huey_a_42_year...
2) Trump's authoritarian interpretation of these powers is pretty obvious and not really controversial. I think this is an obvious fact that requires little explanation.
> Studies have found similar levels of depression and PTSD among drone pilots working behind a bank of computers as among military personnel deployed to the battlefield.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/life-as-a-dron...
People aren't angry because they responded to the call.
Watch this video in case you haven't:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/george-floyd-kneele...
> How is the US a police state?
There's not a simple yes or no answer to this question. But if you sincerely want to understand where people are coming from when they make the claim, you ought to do some research.
I'll give you a head start. Try googling:
"police spying without warrant"
"stop and frisk"
"police perjury"
"police license plate readers"
"police phone data"
Also, check out organizations like the ACLU, EFF and many others who work very hard to prevent the US becoming a police state.
https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2020/04/30/aerial...
Maybe they extended the 100 mile constitution-exempt border zone: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
Fewer problems. Presumably it would be much less capable. The sister comment[1] lays out how dangerous this UAV is, and how powerful. History has shown that the police/military are eager to gain capabilities, and very reluctant to part with them. If use of these very capable military grade drones becomes wide-spread, using them aggressively against live people becomes more probable. And very easy to do — they're already everywhere.
We should also think about how regulated their use should be! These have the capability to just provide 24h surveillance on certain areas, which would erode citizens' privacy greatly.
I'd guess this is a Gorgon Stare drone.
https://longreads.com/2019/06/21/nothing-kept-me-up-at-night...
If you want some facts, here's a list of all of the buildings damaged or destroyed by people "expressing their frustration". Notice that some are government buildings that provide services to the poor, who are obviously more affected by the ongoing pandemic. You can continue defending them, if you like.
>Dissent is the most American value. The country was founded on it.
This statement is thrown around all the time, but it's really an attempt at gaslighting people into thinking that chaos and calamity was what the people who started the American Revolution were fine with. Of course, the opposite is true, and the chaos and calamity of a weak and ineffective English Imperial Regime was what they were rebelling against and the final form of the revolution was an institution of essentially the same style of English Common Law but with distinctly American characteristics.
https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildi...
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/05/who-lives-in-border-p...
do you think the laws are literally broken or figuratively broken then? also there are many laws at many levels of priority. some of them in effect enable you to kill protected classes of people under convenient circumstances
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/29/poli...
https://www.kqed.org/news/11818476/deputies-blunt-force-neck...
most unmanned drones used today have a far higher history of 'unintended forced landings' than most other military craft -- when you use planes that have a high risk of crash over metropolitan and suburban areas, the human risk multiplies.
The US military has 'lost' about 400 'large' drones between 2001 and 2014.
To put that 400 number into perspective, the US had 5 or 6 major airliner crashes between 2001-2013, and about 400 accidents (including non-crashes and minor incidents) over the period of 2004-2013.
I'd rather have any fighter jet in production right now over me than anything General Atomics had designed.
Here's an older WaPo article from 2016. From 2001-2016 400 military drone crashes occured. Military incidents are harder to find out about, otherwise I would have used that number.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/drone-crash...
>I feel that since drones pose less risk to the lives of their operators, the desire to use them will be greater.
absolutely true -- but don't let that make you think that loss-of-personnel is the most important metric for whether or not a mission flies.
Was my parent's home. We were south of Fargo, outside of the city dike. Fargo is very, very flat farmland. Our house was 40' above the river. The top of the city dike was around 43'. We melted down the ice, put down a sheet of plastic, and then built a wall of sandbags. Bonus, it was very cold, so you essentially had to bag and place the sandbag before the sand froze. We put around 10k sacks around the house -- and saved it. Nothing like paddling a canoe to my brothers to resupply fuel for the generators powering the sump-pumps that handled the water that seeps in.
We got very, very lucky. The weather froze the ice a few inches thick and it stopped rising. Had water reached that last bag, Fargo would have been a giant swimming pool.
Oh wait, we have nearly 20 years of the endless war that proves that they will.
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2015/07/l...
Just as a random question, how many people do you think know that these guys (https://longreads.com/2019/06/21/nothing-kept-me-up-at-night...) are flying above American cities
I have a suspicion, being a Senator for 40 years sort of removes you from the concerns of everyday Americans.
These are the same Senators (and Representatives) that vote for these measures. They'll never be the target of these surveillance schemes... and when they are, they throw a huge fit[1] because they're supposedly above all of it. They're the same people who ban guns from the public, but own operate and illegally traffic them themselves[2].
They're the same ones that don't have to be strip searched every time they fly, but I digress...
[1] https://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/13/pelosi-alle...
[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/2...
It is not clear to me that insisting racism is creating a coalition that will change the system.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_deadly_force_in_...
https://i.imgur.com/Ijzt56t.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FR0qla3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KDvP5Du.jpg
I'll have to dig up some of the 'end of days' photos where it almost breached the wall. You had to buy flood insurance early on... which was pricey, but covered a lot of the supplies. It was several thousand dollars for the 2009 construction.
We had 3 '500 year' floods. 1997, 2009, and 2011. The Red river flows north, which is an oddity. Lots of snow, with folks redirecting water caused some new records. Grand Forks was flooded out in one of those years - Fargo almost fell. By the time the third major flood happened - we were ready.
https://i.imgur.com/jhAIMMn.jpg
We set up a series of hesco bags and filled them directly. Worked great, and they came and picked up the bags to be reused in the Bismark flooding. Sand doubled in price each time... and the city really wanted this property on the cheap... so that last run took hours but cost about 20k. (yikes) After that, the city built a permanent dike that protected the property.
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266715217398030336
There does seem to be bias in media coverage and therefore society outrage or lack thereof.
If you look at the aerial view, you can spot the neighbors homes that did not make it and the edge of the city dike now in the back yard. Many houses flooded. Heartbreaking when you saw folks trying to have a fire truck flood their failing dike with clean water rather than have the sewage/etc fill the house.
