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1. ivanzh+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-03-23 16:57:52
Notion | Engineer, Designer, Sales, Marketing, PM, Support | SF | https://www.notion.so | Full-time Onsite

== Intro ====================================

Hey there, Notion founder here. At Notion, our goal to create the general purpose work tool for a post-file, post-MS Office world. My cofounder and I often joke that this was like the "hot startup topic" of the 90s. Unfortunately, tools for knowledge workers haven't advanced much since then. The state of art is either Google Docs/Quip/Dropbox Paper (multiplayer WordPerfect), or rigid SAAS apps (forms + a table+ some buttons).

This is our product: https://notion.so

We are looking for people with the following roles: https://www.notion.so/jobs

We made a graphic novel about why we exist: https://notion.so/about

Read more reviews on WSJ and Product Hunt. (Notion was one of the fastest voted of all time): https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-only-app-you-need-for-work-.... https://www.producthunt.com/posts/notion-2-0

We are a bunch of artsy nerds in SF. The business is profitable and growing very fast. We have a beautiful artist loft in the SF Mission district, with some of the best investors out there (notion.so/about).

== Apply =======================================

Please see details here ->> https://www.notion.so/jobs

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2. shosta+09[view] [source] 2020-03-23 17:39:02
>>ivanzh+(OP)
Given recent developments do you have plans to open any roles to remote?
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3. gbasin+U9[view] [source] 2020-03-23 17:43:39
>>ivanzh+(OP)
Love the pitch and the culture. If I want a job at some point, you will be one of my first choices!
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4. ahel+8d[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-23 17:59:24
>>shosta+09
I already asked and got no as answer
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5. iamjar+Wg[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-23 18:21:01
>>ahel+8d
It strikes me as odd that a company whose software facilitates distributed teams so well doesn't embrace a remote workforce. I'm a Notion user with a ton of ideas and would love to help improve the app but there's just no way I could move to SF to do that.
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6. rnwlgh+iB[view] [source] 2020-03-23 20:15:35
>>ivanzh+(OP)
Hello Ivan, love the product! I'm always checking to apply for a PM opening, but I don't see it on the jobs page!
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7. driver+VM[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-23 21:28:41
>>iamjar+Wg
Slack was on-site only until the current situation. It's shocking how pervasive this mindset is in the bay area.
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8. davies+MU[view] [source] 2020-03-23 22:26:25
>>ivanzh+(OP)
I really wish that you guys would open up remote positions! I would absolutely love working for you guys, but can't/won't make the commute
9. tjmtjm+Ia1[view] [source] 2020-03-24 00:23:26
>>ivanzh+(OP)
Not looking for a job, but Notion's Full Stack Engineer job description (https://www.notion.so/Full-Stack-Engineer-Notion-60ba853553e...) has always struck me as, what I envision as, an ideal full stack product "person" (whatever that means). I'm genuinely curious what people think, how does one build up the skills to fill that type of role?
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10. PStama+aV2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-24 18:16:23
>>tjmtjm+Ia1
Not looking for a job either but likewise I did always really like their designer posting: https://www.notion.so/Designer-Who-Can-Code-Notion-bfd327660...

Comes off as very authentic, nice to see photos of the team/office, and a good elaboration on the role and product. Just seems very down to earth. Well done folks!

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11. Pete-C+Av5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-25 18:25:23
>>ahel+8d
Yikes!
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12. Pete-C+Hv5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-25 18:26:02
>>driver+VM
Wow, that's mad.

It's like a company that sells bikes not letting staff cycle to work.

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13. crimso+bb7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-26 13:53:19
>>iamjar+Wg
It's a valid view point that has equal weight to remote teams. In person dynamics among a team is very different from remote. Whether one way is more effective than the other is unproven, but there is definitely a huge difference and at it's worth considering what type of team dynamic you're trying to build at a company.
14. mettam+n2c[view] [source] 2020-03-28 16:35:22
>>ivanzh+(OP)
I'm a CS grad with some work experience (1 year dev, 1 year coding bootcamp teacher). See me as a junior that ramps up quicker than the average junior (e.g. last month I owned a lot of boxes at hackthebox.eu for fun and was a top 5% after 2 weeks of non-stop playing [1]).

I wrote my thesis related to Engelbard. So I think we have a cultural click. Which is why I'm writing all this.

The reason I'm not applying but simply writing things here is because I'm tired of applying (it's hard to hear more than 100+ "no" while at university you were a top student). But I do want to know if you guys think I'm worth considering.

Which is why I'm brutally honest with the following:

Companies tend to reject me due to lack of experience, and (in my opinion) undervalue how quick I can pick things up and how willing I am to work amazingly hard, especially at the beginning of a job. When they hire me they tend to be surprised with how wrong they were about me.

My strength is that I'm a generalist, much more so than most people. My weakness is that people have the perception that I can't be a specialist. But anyone that gave me a chance in hiring me during my freelance time know that I am capable of performing one role as a specialist (full-stack developer with a business and security mindset).

During my good days I tend to have an Elon Musk mindset. He says that working 80 to 100 hours per week means you learn 2 to 2.5 times faster, I mostly agree -- I think it is sometimes more because the interconnectness of things pushes the multiple a bit higher. During my bad days I simply want to work 40 hours per week go home and relax. During these times I sort of don't want to work due to stress, but know that I have to work because it keeps my mind sharp.

[1] I was in "Elon Musk" mode for a month.

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15. mettam+O6c[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-03-28 17:10:31
>>mettam+n2c
I'd appreciate from the downvoters how I can improve.
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16. adamse+rwk[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-01 01:49:46
>>mettam+O6c
Shorter - 2-3 sentences. Less is more : ).
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