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1. Ididnt+(OP)[view] [source] 2019-07-02 16:58:19
Exactly. People are already used to much more surveillance than they used and this trend just keeps going. Sometimes it's China taking the lead, sometimes the US, sometimes other countries. But they all look at each other and slowly adopt what the other country is doing.

I am pretty sure the next generation will never see anything other than complete surveillance by countries or corporations. And for them it will seem normal.

replies(2): >>Subicu+af >>godels+xA
2. Subicu+af[view] [source] 2019-07-02 18:27:24
>>Ididnt+(OP)
If your whole argument is based on fatalism, you might as well say so....because right now you assume the conclusion.
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3. mLuby+Ah[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 18:39:56
>>Subicu+af
It doesn't look like fatalism to me; the argument is based on the bandwagon effect and how dramatic outcomes can be arrived at through incremental changes.
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4. Ididnt+fj[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 18:51:32
>>mLuby+Ah
It's the slow erosion of values. I remember a time when people would "never do online banking", now pretty much everybody does it. Some years ago nobody would have thought it possible that the border agent may ask for social media accounts or decrypt your phone. Now they do it. It's a very slow progression that may take decades but it's happening everywhere.
5. godels+xA[view] [source] 2019-07-02 20:49:30
>>Ididnt+(OP)
To be honest most people already see surveillance capitalism as normal. Weirds me out for one.
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