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> What's ping tax?

Google that...

> How is daycare more expensive for women? Surely, a man raising a child on their own will pay exactly the same amount

Most primary care givers are women. Women are hurt by that more.

> In a normal case

Single mother is normal case. Look at stats and trends.

>>jankot+(OP)
I hate to be rude but I googled for a ping tax and maybe it's because I live in Australia, but all I can find is the ato answering questions about ping-pong tables and otherwise random economics subjects from china that use the word ping (eg: "Ping insurance", Gui Ping Wu).

I can't find anything specific to women.

>>jankot+(OP)
>>Single mother is normal case. Look at stats and trends.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-192...

"The Majority of Children Live With Two Parents, Census Bureau Reports"

Maybe I should have said "usual" not "normal" - being a single mother is a normal thing. But so is being a single dad. Claiming that women are somehow worse off because they spend more on childcare is completely bizarre.

>>Google that...

Or you could just tell me - I googled it and there's absolutely nothing that relates to women, several pages of results on google are just taking about filing my taxes with HMRC when I search for ping tax.

>>Most primary care givers are women. Women are hurt by that more.

And? What's the argument here? You were saying that women are paid less for the same work(something which you completely ignored in my reply) and that they have more expenses than men(I would say a subset of people who are raising children on their own have more expenses than people who don't. They don't have more expenses because they are women, they have more expenses because of the choices they made).

>>gambit+E
I thing we can agree that raising kids in SF is very expensive, and that there are more single moms than single fathers.

> women are paid less for the same work

Gender pay gap is generally accepted fact.

> more expenses because they are women, they have more expenses because of the choices they made)

Not sure I understand. Family is not really a choice. And choice/not choice is irrelevant in argument. Goal is to get more women into STEM, one can not forbid people to have a children.

>>jankot+n1
>>Gender pay gap is generally accepted fact.

Is it? I'm pretty sure it was debunked time after time after time, with studies basically finding that women work fewer hours(by choice) and even when presented with an opportunity to advance to a higher, more stressful position, they decline more often than men do. Women tend not to take the well paying, but risky jobs that men take, skewing the proportions further. On the other hand, men account for nearly all workplace deaths in the civilized world - but it looks like they are rewarded for taking those risks.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy...

>> Family is not really a choice.

Having a choice whether to have or not have children is a generally accepted fact, at least in 1st world countries.

>>shard9+p
I'm guessing they meant pink tax. They might not be a native English speaker so didn't pick up on the mistake.

>>jankot+n1
It's definitely not fact. Men and women in the same exact position are paid the same with differences really coming down to negotiation for the salary rather than some scale based on gender.

>>benmmu+34
Ah that does it. Yea i think the issue is that google knows im australian so it doesn't correct the mistake where the americans it's a big talking point.

And since we are more closely related to asian happenings, it decided to not correct it due to the misspelling being an asian name :P