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1. doctob+23[view] [source] 2026-02-05 05:33:23
>>WaitWa+(OP)
Hopefully this is a wakeup call to the software engineers and other employees at those companies - it's no longer a hypothetical future where the tools you are building might be abused, it's today.
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2. testfr+8e[view] [source] 2026-02-05 07:23:10
>>doctob+23
If you’re not awake already, you support what’s happening.

Blind, which I realize is a bit of the wild west, is full of racist anti-immigration/pro ICE hatred. Obviously, you can see where users work/worked, and it’s every company you could imagine.

The sad reality is that a lot of people will do what they can to support racist agendas, possibly even motivate them to work at certain companies as it feels moralizing to their hateful beliefs.

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3. andsoi+Yf[view] [source] 2026-02-05 07:41:08
>>testfr+8e
> you support what’s happening.

I don’t know that things are that black and white.

Do you feel the same about the billions of consumers who buy and use the products these companies make?

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4. dns_sn+bm[view] [source] 2026-02-05 08:36:59
>>andsoi+Yf
No because employees are making the actual thing that inflicts harm while consumers' actions are completely diffused and many steps removed from the harm they cause. That's why ad-tech is so effective in the first place.

Consumer pays $1.10 for a can of coke, $0.10 of that goes to ad-tech, the consumer watches some coke ads, ad-tech pays $0.05 to the publisher and the consumer receives $0.05 in benefits in the form of "free ad-supported content" (which they already paid $0.10 for).

The only way for consumers to avoid this is to just stop spending money with any brand that advertises online, which is completely unrealistic and a much taller ask than asking employees to give up their deal with the devil (and work for just about anyone else except big tech).

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5. reacto+4B[view] [source] 2026-02-05 10:37:44
>>dns_sn+bm
Replace “tech” in this scenario with “ammunition”.

Does your argument still hold up?

>”employees are making the actual thing that inflicts harm while consumers' actions are completely diffused and many steps removed from the harm they cause.”

“employees are making the actual thing that inflicts harm while consumers' actions directly cause deadly harm.”

I’m not arguing that we shouldn’t be voting with our wallets and supporting these people but your initial argument is flawed. They produce goods precisely because consumers buy them…

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6. dns_sn+WM[view] [source] 2026-02-05 12:27:15
>>reacto+4B
I didn't say "tech", I said "ad-tech" and "big tech" (meaning ad-tech like Google, not TSMC) which aren't morally neutral like ammunition is. Invasion of privacy and exploitation of private information is an inherent part of their business model.
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