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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. yonata+F8[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:50:12
>>zx8080+E7
What if we collectively decide to use the web alternatives for banking? We lose some convinience since they are generally desktop oriented, but they don't check who signed my kernel
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3. 1gn15+49[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:55:07
>>yonata+F8
Also, use ATMs if you can instead. Don't use propietary code on your own machine; run it on theirs instead.
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4. falcor+aa[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:11:33
>>1gn15+49
I don't understand the sentiment - how does relinquishing control of the hardware help us? I see a possible future where the banks/governments give the people devices to use for these things, and I don't like this future, as these would surely become spy instruments.
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5. card_z+Kc[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:45:00
>>falcor+aa
In what way, if supplied by the bank and used only for contacting the bank to do banking, could a device become a spy instrument?

Kicking banks off the internet/apps would make Android and Apple less cushy.

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6. falcor+8e[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:02:23
>>card_z+Kc
> In what way, if supplied by the bank and used only for contacting the bank to do banking, could a device become a spy instrument?

Here's my attempt at future history: Firstly they'll require you to prove your current location, to ensure that the request isn't made by a remote hacker; they'll do this by integrating their own cellular modem, as well as scanning local wi-fi networks. Then, at a second phase, they'll integrate a camera and microphone to perform a face identification, asking you to speak out a particular phrase while performing a particular motion. At the start they'll only require you to turn the mic and camera on during active usage, but eventually they'll say that these have to stay on continuously so that they can ensure that the device wasn't tempered with. And if we aren't careful, we'll accept every single small added requirement, until we're boiled alive.

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