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>>lsllc+(OP)
People on plant based diets probably are healthier on this metric than others, on average. But I wonder if that’s more of a case that the control group generally has a shit diet?

Would love to know if a primarily plant based diet (lots of varied vegetables, berries, nuts and fruit) + some lean meat and plenty of seafood on top would be as healthy as plant based, or healthier even?

>>dharma+Y6
You can definitely be vegetarian and still be unhealthy. Excessive pasta, bread and cheese is one good path, but also processed foods and sugars. It gets a lot harder to be unhealthy when you're vegan but nothing is impossible.

Many of the other blue zones are heavy on the seafood, but on the flip side there are problems with seafood that have nothing to do with the actual fish themselves and everything to do with chemicals and the way we're trashing out planet.

>>vertis+2a
I grew up around a lot of Seventh Day Adventists who are mostly vegetarian and they had lots of healthy people but _also_ a good few morbidly obese people who had diets with a lot of dairy and carbs. I suspect the latter might have benefited from being able to satisfy cravings for savory with things like lean chicken breast, etc.

I like a plant-based diet myself and have been on and off them over life, but the one habit that seems to keep me healthier than others is avoiding bread, pasta, and cheese.