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1. silico+z11[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:11:23
>>modele+(OP)
There is a lot in here but turning a non-profit into a for-profit definitely should be challenged. Otherwise why wouldn't everyone start as a non-profit, develop your IP, and then switch to 'for-profit' mode once you got something that works? You don't pay income taxes and your investors get write offs.
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2. dkjaud+K51[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:27:57
>>silico+z11
The replies that say "well the profits go to the non-profit, all's good" miss the reality of these high profit nonprofits: the profits invariably end up in the pockets of management. Most of those are essentially scams, but it doesn't mean that OpenAI isn't just a more subtle scam.

The hype and the credulity of the general public play right into this scam. People will more or less believe anything Sam the Money Gushing Messiah says because the neat demos keep flowing. The question is what's we've lost in all this, which no-one really thinks about.

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3. emoden+P61[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:32:13
>>dkjaud+K51
If your beef with this structure is that executives get paid handsomely I have bad news about the entire category of nonprofits, regardless of whether they have for-profit arms or not.
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4. dkjaud+l91[view] [source] 2024-03-01 17:44:55
>>emoden+P61
I really wouldn't give a shit how much they were paid if we got something more than vague promises.

They could release the source with a licence that restricted commercial use, anything they wanted, that still allowed them to profit.

Instead we get "AI is too dangerous for anyone else to have." The whole thing doesn't inspire confidence.

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5. LordDr+ek1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:33:17
>>dkjaud+l91
>I really wouldn't give a shit how much they were paid if we got something more than vague promises.

"We" got a free-as-in-beer general knowledge chat system leagues better than anything at the time, suitable for most low-impact general knowledge and creative work (easily operable by non-technical users), a ridiculously cheap api for it, and the papers detailing how to replicate it.

The same SOTA with image generation, just hosted by Microsoft/Bing.

Like, not to defend OpenAI, but if the goal was improving the state of general AI, they've done a hell of a lot - much of which your average tech-literate person would not have believed was even possible. Not single-handedly, obviously, but they were major contributors to almost all of the current SOTA. The only thing they haven't done is release the weights, and I feel like everything else they've done has been lost in the discussion, here.

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6. whaleo+Am1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:44:45
>>LordDr+ek1
> "We" got a free-as-in-beer general knowledge chat system leagues better than anything at the time

Where can I go get or drink from my free as in beer chat system from them then?

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7. LordDr+Un1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 18:51:17
>>whaleo+Am1
https://chat.openai.com/

(No, having to create an account does not mean it's "not free")

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