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[return to "Privacy is priceless, but Signal is expensive"]
1. vizzah+PV[view] [source] 2023-11-16 20:29:51
>>mikece+(OP)
$6 million per year on outgoing SMS? Do not send SMS to users, make users send SMS to you instead to confirm their numbers! I have this solution for years and it works >90% of the time. The rest 10% is calling a verification number which drops calls with busy signal (no fees for the caller) but sees who is calling and is able to verify their number.
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2. johndo+941[view] [source] 2023-11-16 21:05:53
>>vizzah+PV
It would be great if Signal wouldn't require a phone number for account setup at all
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3. illiac+U41[view] [source] 2023-11-16 21:09:36
>>johndo+941
this is in testing and coming to you early next year.
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4. travis+I61[view] [source] 2023-11-16 21:19:23
>>illiac+U41
Would invites be a solution? Anyone can sign up if they provide a number, otherwise you need an invite from someone with a number linked. It would clump the identity/legitimacy for all invitees into origin number, but still allow disparate accounts.
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5. novok+S71[view] [source] 2023-11-16 21:25:00
>>travis+I61
It’s not about legitimacy but having a bootstrapped contact list to talk to along with other user friction reasons
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6. serial+Tb1[view] [source] 2023-11-16 21:45:48
>>novok+S71
In that case it doesn't make sense to make it required.

Sure, I don't mind if they ask for my phone number if they think that's a better default onboarding flow, but allow users to bypass it.

With all that said, I don't think it's really only about user friction.

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7. illiac+Ab2[view] [source] 2023-11-17 05:10:10
>>serial+Tb1
they did not "make it required", Signal was just never developed to support anything else for username/registration. Which is what they have now almost corrected.
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8. serial+LJ2[view] [source] 2023-11-17 11:11:22
>>illiac+Ab2
sounds required to me.
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9. illiac+wX2[view] [source] 2023-11-17 12:51:51
>>serial+LJ2
It's wording then. Making something required sounds like an artificial limitation whereas implementing support for usernames requires a lot of work, it's not like they commented out a couple of lines on purpose.

What is required at the moment is any phone number, not your phone number. You can use a phone booth even.

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