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1. mutant+l1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:21:56
>>xslowz+(OP)
I think that HN itself also shadow flags submissions from a list of domains it doesn't like.

Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see it's flagged unless you log out):

  - archive.is
  - watcher.guru
  - stacker.news
  - zerohedge.com
  - freebeacon.com
  - thefederalist.com
  - breitbart.com
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2. dang+p1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:22:20
>>mutant+l1
Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves.

Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them:

  vodlockertv.com
  biggboss.org
  infoocode.com
  newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com
  moringajuice.wordpress.com
  surrogacymumbai.com
  maximizedlivingdrlabrecque.com
  radio.com
  gossipcare.com
  tecteem.com
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3. rhaksw+s5[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:05:41
>>dang+p1
It is a secret if the system does not inform the poster it's been penalized.
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4. altair+Q6[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:20:48
>>rhaksw+s5
What is it if the information is freely available, to anyone asking, for a single domain they are trying to post at that time?

It’s not secret, because they’ll be provided an answer if they email the mod team.

It’s not free as in open source, because it isn’t available for anyone to download and study in full.

So, since it’s not secret, is it public, or private? Since it’s not published in full but any query of LIMIT 1 is answered, is that open, closed, or other?

Restrictions to publication don’t necessarily equate to secrecy, but the best I’ve got is “available upon request”, which isn’t quite right either. Suggestions welcome.

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5. vasco+V8[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:43:47
>>altair+Q6
> Suggestions welcome

"This domain is not allowed on HN" as an error message upon submission.

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6. altair+p9[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:48:16
>>vasco+V8
That’s not going to work, because now that’s an API for spammers to bulk process against a domain list. The only available API must be human communication to the mod team, or the spammers will overcome it with automation.
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7. vasco+Oa[view] [source] 2023-08-15 06:02:18
>>altair+p9
Spammers can already do that API call and see if the domain shows up. This only puts human users at the same level of consideration as spammer automation.
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8. altair+ub[view] [source] 2023-08-15 06:12:44
>>vasco+Oa
Seriously dedicated spammers can, yes! But antispam is about reducing the noise threshold, and eliminating low-effort spam opportunities that can be done to a single HTTP endpoint with a bash script is a big win. Simply having to access two pages is already too much to bother with for the vast majority.
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