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1. eganis+s8[view] [source] 2023-07-25 03:35:49
>>danShu+(OP)
Expected, but meaningless if we can't drive people towards Firefox and away from Chromium products. That's something of a responsibility we all have, especially those of us invested in the safety and security (collectively, trust) of the web.

I haven't seen anything yet on whether Brave will support it, though if I'm understanding correctly, they won't have a choice since they're using Chromium. Hopefully I'm misinformed.

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2. paulry+N8[view] [source] 2023-07-25 03:40:55
>>eganis+s8
Judging by all the hate Mozilla gets around here, it would be nice to at least see some credit given where it is due.

Ultimately I think we must permanently return to browser ballots back by the law, like the IE bundling fallout. Otherwise friction and incentives will continue to entrench one dominant player.

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3. echelo+8a[view] [source] 2023-07-25 03:52:23
>>paulry+N8
> Judging by all the hate Mozilla gets around here, it would be nice to at least see some credit given where it is due.

Mozilla, the browser, is great.

Mozilla efforts, such as Rust, have been historically great.

Mozilla leadership is currently awful. They focus is on the wrong things - web VR and low-quality foundational AI models. Maybe because they think the web is at risk of disappearing outright. But the true enemy is Google, and they're currently its well-behaved prisoner.

Mozilla can't bite the hand that feeds it, but someone needs to point the FTC, Congress, and the EU at Google. Everything they do, buy, and work on is to point an overwhelming majority of internet users at its ad products. Chrome, Search, Android, YouTube, Apple default search engine deal, etc. Google has become inescapable. And that's rather anti-competitive if you're trying to advertise your business or selling ad tech.

Nevermind that the web commons and standards are constantly in Google's blast radius for funneling everyone into their gaping maw.

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4. insani+ta[view] [source] 2023-07-25 03:56:57
>>echelo+8a
I can't see how Mozilla could possibly right the ship with their current CEO. If they get rid of her maybe things could improve. Until then, I'd bet on Microsoft/Apple before I bet on Mozilla when it comes to protecting the web.
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5. twelve+8c[view] [source] 2023-07-25 04:12:47
>>insani+ta
What has the CEO done?

Microsoft and Apple dont have a good history so assuming there is something big here?

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6. xxs+lj[view] [source] 2023-07-25 05:18:38
>>twelve+8c
Effectively ensured Mozilla is entirely dependant on Google as a single revenue steam. No other initiatives to earn anything.
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7. Vinnl+HG[view] [source] 2023-07-25 08:50:08
>>xxs+lj
Mozilla VPN, Firefox Relay Premium, Pocket Premium, MDN Plus, Hubs Enterprise... I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch.

Of course, there's also criticism for attempting those.

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8. hoover+iY1[view] [source] 2023-07-25 16:14:13
>>Vinnl+HG
Mozilla should be independent from Google. No, not like that!
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