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1. scrum-+V2[view] [source] 2023-06-28 16:06:55
>>ridicu+(OP)
Truthfully... Yes. Many other apps and services do as well. Careful what you give camera and mic permissions to, and always read the privacy agreements, especially for FAANG. If you don't think Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are watching/listening (with and without the light indicators), think again.
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2. Commit+v5[view] [source] 2023-06-28 16:18:58
>>scrum-+V2
Now this is the type of FUD I'd expect from my aunt.
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3. mindsl+pa[view] [source] 2023-06-28 16:38:45
>>Commit+v5
Don't write off what you're hearing from your aunt as "FUD". What she's saying is a poor technical understanding of the very real overarching dynamic.

I've tried many times to explain to people things like that GPS satellites do not track you, and there are things you can do with your own phone which drastically cut down on tracking. There's no interest, no understanding that I'm simultaneously sharing their concerns while trying to tell them that they aren't powerless. They just think surveillance is a foregone conclusion, and then distance themselves and rationalize it any number of ways, and then share their nutty mechanism-of-action condemnations as a way of advertising their political tribe.

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4. scrum-+HVc[view] [source] 2023-07-02 03:43:08
>>mindsl+pa
> "Don't write off what you're hearing from your aunt as "FUD". What she's saying is a poor technical understanding of the very real overarching dynamic."

I don't have poor technical understanding. I am pointing out one of the loopholes companies are using to exploit customers: "privacy agreements."

If you want an in-depth technical analysis of how big tech does spy on you, just ask. I can provide a few case studies using OSINT and "hypothetical" speak, so as not to break NDA.

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5. mindsl+01e[view] [source] 2023-07-02 15:15:05
>>scrum-+HVc
Sorry. I wasn't saying that your comment was based on poor technical understanding. I was making that judgement about GP's strawman of your comment.

I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say from the technical side, in case it contains any information that is new to me. Personally, I model things such that if a closed software/system has access to some information, it will backhaul, store, and abuse that information (if not immediately, then in the future). I'm not going to hang my hat on a hope that some companies aren't functioning as optimal surveillance machines!

FWIW I don't find privacy policies themselves particularly enlightening because they're generally vague, equivocating, and subject to change at whim. Sure technically if there weren't a "privacy policy" then you might theoretically have some legal right of action to go after a company for abusing your information (although good luck demonstrating real damages, as always). But at least in the US that feels completely hypothetical.

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