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>>cwwc+(OP)
When did we move to a "do whatever you think you can get away with" model of society?

Maybe I'm naive but I think there used to be at least a modicum of self-restraint on this kind of thing. Sure, people always tried to make as much money as possible, but there used to be some limit somewhere - not because you'll get caught but because c'mon, we just don't do that! That seems to have now been totally lost.

>>llimos+Q7
There was never restraint and it used to be much worse. This is why the large body of laws and regulations we have today came into being.

Edit:

Also, in the West society in general is one of abundance with people housed, clothed and educated in school from birth, which IMHO removes a lot of incentives for scams and fraud.

But it used to be (and still is in some countries) that most people were born with nothing in a very tough environment and had to fight just to eat every day. The world of Charles Dickens was real.

>>mytail+ha
It’s also why funding our institutions and fighting to keep them honest is so damn important. Regulation is insufficient without enforcement.

>>throwa+Oa
But that's precisely the problem! Every aspect of the life is over regulated and smaller bushiness are kneecapped On other side big companies can get away with whatever. At some states florist is a regulated profession and requires more hours of training than for police.

"For my friends everything, for my enemies the law".

>>betaby+Pc
> and requires more hours of training than for police.

Citation? Best I could find is that Louisiana regulates floristry but doesn't mandate education (you need to take an exam). As for taking more hours of training than police I think you are conflating that fact in your head with this: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cosmetologists-police-trai...

Besides, I'm not sure how you got here in a thread about how Fedex, a "big compan[y] [which] can get away with whatever" getting caught scamming people.

>>bentco+Vg
> Citation?

https://www.on.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/requirements/24582...

Florist, regulated in QC, training is ~1K hours.

https://www.quebec.ca/en/government/quebec-at-a-glance/first...

training is also ~1K hours.

> Besides, I'm not sure how you got here in a thread about how Fedex, a "big compan[y] [which] can get away with whatever" getting caught scamming people.

Car sales (any many other things) are heavily regulated where I live. Also it seems regulations are not enforced if one is 'too big to fall'.

>>betaby+fn
> https://www.on.jobbank.gc.ca/marketreport/requirements/24582...

> Florist, regulated in QC, training is ~1K hours.

Is it? That page is extremely vague and doesn't seem to be specific to study hours or even education requirements.

Floristry doesn't seem to be on the list of regulated professions in Quebec: https://www.quebec.ca/emploi3/metiers-professions/metiers-re..., but I may have missed it.

>>bentco+Nw
De-facto florists in QC need Certificat d'aptitude professionnelle

Link in french shows 1K hours https://ecole-metiers-horticulture.cssdm.gouv.qc.ca/programm... to obtain one.