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>>amathe+(OP)
The issue of quiting cars is nowadays far from just a matter of values as the article seems to be implying.

Cars are by now a hard to reverse environmental and urban planning disaster across the world. We are stuck with them. As a mode of transport it has grown uncontrollably at the expense of all others (except the airplane) and practically everything has been shaped to accomodate it.

Reversing that development, limiting car traffic to where its really needed is like trying to perform a complete heart and arteries transplant on a living person. Even if there was a will (which there is not) it is not clear if there is a way.

In the best scenario it will be an excruciatingly long transformation (~50 yr) as car oriented cities (or city sections) get slowly deprecated and the car-free or car-lite segments become more desirable, more livable.

>>nologi+Mz1
It's not really "remove cars" problem tho. Cars are fine and are needed, you can't move anything big with tram or bike easily. It's make other forms of transport more viable for day to day stuff

You still need vans and trucks delivering stuff to people and businesses. Bus is far more flexible form of transport than tram. Just... if you need to wait ages for one and there is no stop nearby nobody will want to wait.

>>ilyt+wH1
> Cars are fine and are needed, you can't move anything big with tram or bike easily

What’s the percentage of cars on the road you see moving big stuff that could not be moved by other means? (Aka not people).

>>loloqu+KM1
Do you have kids?

Are you affluent and lucky enough to live near their school?

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/07/20190730-school.htm...

>>cscurm+DP1
By that link, half the kids that live a mile from school are driven in a private car.

That’s bonkers to me. That’s a completely walkable distance if road/sidewalk design allows it. That it frequently doesn’t is a failure on the part of our governments and urban planners.

>>alista+wQ1
Walking a mile is totally doable, but it takes some time planning.

Throwing the kid in the car 2 minutes before the bell works.

The sidewalks are often there to be used, but the car is faster and easier.

I normally walk to school but it was raining today so I drove for pickup.

>>bombca+Cg2
> it was raining today so I drove for pickup.

Ever heard of umbrellas? :)

> Throwing the kid in the car 2 minutes before the bell works.

It the school is a mile away, unless you live right next to a large road with 60 mph limit and no stops or traffic lights, I doubt you can make it 1 mile in 2 minutes without driving recklessly fast (and in proximity of a school).

>>loloqu+tU2
I normally will do the umbrella thing, but this time I had to transport a "school project of utmost importance" so the vehicle's siren song of ecological disaster won me over.

2 minutes, 5 minutes, the concept is the same. People are bad at planning and fall back on crutches.

(Part of it is stupid media-fueled disaster porn about how if a kid walks to school without an entire armed battalion of bodyguards they're going to get raped and murdered because something that happened once back in 1989.)