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1. gramma+Oh[view] [source] 2021-11-11 01:01:24
>>lxm+(OP)
> Los Angeles and San Diego Unified — the state’s two largest school districts, with some 660,000 students combined — have recently directed teachers to base academic grades on whether students have learned what was expected of them during a course — and not penalize them for behavior, work habits and missed deadlines.

That lesson is going to serve them well in the workplace.

Teach students that they are entitled to bad behavior, bad work habits, and deadlines? Fuck deadlines

The next generation is going to have a hard time competing in the global workplace against cultures that do enforce reasonable consequences for fucking up.

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2. skyde+Un[view] [source] 2021-11-11 01:53:30
>>gramma+Oh
you got to understand where this new guidelines are coming from.

If a 5 years old student already can do algebra and calculus but his teacher give him 100 page of simple addition to do as homework and he decide to not do them…

Should he fail the class ? I don’t think so, the class is already too easy for him!

His grade should only be based on his score on exams!

Why force student to waste hours at home doing busy work on something they already master? this sound like torture!

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3. bodhia+Jo[view] [source] 2021-11-11 02:02:13
>>skyde+Un
The problem is that exams are often an extremely poor assessment of actual student learning, since they're such an unnatural format (no checking of oneself, strong time limits, extremely "easy" problems that can be done in those time limits). The other problem is that the only way to actually learn something is often to practice it. Attaching grades to "homework" is a method of forcing students to actually do the practice. Otherwise, there has to be some other reward mechanism, because frankly, its very hard for children to have the self discipline to study on their own.
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4. lmm+ks[view] [source] 2021-11-11 02:42:27
>>bodhia+Jo
Typical homework does not enhance learning at all. It's given out because parents think seeing their kids suffering through drills means they're learning.
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5. b9a2ca+FC[view] [source] 2021-11-11 04:39:20
>>lmm+ks
Retrieval practice and attempting to solve problems before you know the solution to them _does_ improve retention [1]. At least in my high school, those drills definitely exercised these two ideas. In college I copied half my homeworks from answers or exercised the option to make my grade entirely dependent on exams and I definitely retained less information than if I had done the homework.

[1]: https://www.retrievalpractice.org/make-it-stick

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