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1. random+zE[view] [source] 2021-03-28 22:38:10
>>femfos+(OP)
Female founder friend (non tech space) was in a female focused incubator / competition. She got only one set of somewhat critical feedback - ie, lacks experience in X and Y which are key in product space Z.

She posted a comment on her social media focusing on this feedback as "criticism" that came from a sexist guy "of course". It was pretty easy to draw the line to the three panelists, one of whom was a guy. Ouch.

In a previous life, I'd worked in a awesome (female led!) product company. While I had no experience prior to this, I quickly realized that the product itself and its quality etc was almost irrelevant to success, the X and Y mentioned by the male panelist was unfortunately everything, which you'd only know if you were in the space itself. The female led company I worked for was bought out by a (male led) competitor, who then using much strong x and y skills - cleaned up. Company I worked for got basically nothing.

Fast forward - my friends business not doing so great, she asks me for feedback. I said nothing other than enthusiasm. Partly because I was really enthusiastic - she'd put her heart into this project. But her comment on social was in my mind - I had no desire to be next sexist guy "shooting down" an idea

She's out of the business I think mostly. Anyways, this parallels the take of the article.

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2. raducu+wi1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 05:11:34
>>random+zE
This reminds me of a previous workplace.

An otherwise cool female coleague kept making claims people were misogynistic, at first I thought she was joking or that she did have some claim, because someone made an unintentional mysoginistic joke.

Then I left the company, and I talked with an ez coleague who was promoted as a team lead.

The guy was into some new age stuff, about helping everyone, and she was slaking/not interested; the higher ups wanted to fire her.

Not my friend, he really believed in her.

When it was clear she was about to be fired, she complained about him to the HR, that he's sexist and all that.

That guy was the least sexist guy I've ever met and the only one caring for her.

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3. neycod+3l1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 05:45:29
>>raducu+wi1
> someone made an unintentional mysoginistic joke

"mysoginistic" in the sense of "I literally hate women" or in the sense of "I think women are less capable than men" or "I liked a physical feature of her"?

There's more to choose from, the list of things that are called "misogyny" nowadays has gotten incredibly expansive.

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4. tempor+cq1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 06:48:48
>>neycod+3l1
I think the concept is pretty straightforward? It's if you believe women < men generally (not like, avg(women height) < avg(men height)).

The last one, "I liked a feature of her" is not misogynistic absent of context. The context here is really important. It's like saying "I like your haircut". Did I pass up promotion for another person in a non-modeling job because they had a shitty haircut?

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5. raducu+qw1[view] [source] 2021-03-29 08:08:29
>>tempor+cq1
You are right that context is everything, but it works both ways.

You can make a sexist joke without being sexist, but it can still be inapropriate/unprofessional, and it can still cost you dearly.

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