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>>ekianj+(OP)
Oh my god...is that a 15" laptop without a number pad being crammed onto the side of the keyboard, thus not forcing all my typing to be awkwardly offset and uncomfortable?

>>XorNot+n9
While a personally agree with you thoroughly, this weekend I learned that Thai people love number pads because the language has too many characters and it's own numerals, yet most of the time people use/prefer Arabic numerals, so with a number pad they have access to the numbers without having to swap keyboard layouts to English just for numerals.

>>toasta+Ob
It's the same with the French, every French person I know is using the number pad a lot when typing on a French layout. The reason being that in the usual top row you have the accented characters and for numbers you have to press shift, so it's easier to use the number pad. As a side note the French keyboard layout is one of the worst to use if you are not French. Typing your password at an Internet cafe can be a real pain.

>>cycoma+sj
How many accented characters are there in French?

In Polish we have 9 such characters and most people use just so called "programmers keyboard layout" which uses left-alt + letter to do the accent.

E.g. alt + e = ę, alt + l = ł (with a one case where we have two different accents for a single letter: z, so we use alt+z = ż and alt+x = ź, the second letter is less commonly used then the first one)

20-30 years ago there were some strange keyboard layouts that didn't use alt, but hopefully they were forgotten.

>>krzyk+Kk
on the row of number keys: éèçà

on the right of the keyboard: ù

but that's enough to want accents and symbols on the number row by default (&é"'(-è_çà) and numbers when pressing shift.

I think that's the reason that bépo (a French variant of dvorak which allows easy access of both common accentuated keys and numbers) is more popular among French speakers than dvorak is for English speakers, proportionally.

>>progva+Un
In my language we have ľščťžýáíé äúô - first group is on number row, second group is on the right of the keyboard where you have []; on EN layout.

I have never seen anyone use an Alt+number to get these, I personally default to EN layout and switch only when I write in local language.