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>>ekianj+(OP)
Oh my god...is that a 15" laptop without a number pad being crammed onto the side of the keyboard, thus not forcing all my typing to be awkwardly offset and uncomfortable?

>>XorNot+n9
This is my beef with laptops. I bought a huge laptop just so I could have a numberpad.

But I've been amazed at how many programmers don't like to have them. Why?

>>tomrod+Xd
Why would I use numpad?

Even on normal keyboards I don't use it, and they are annoying because they make the mouse position awkwardly more to the right than it should be healthy for the arm (I really envy left handed people, they don't have to deal with this).

And it is next to impossible to get a keyboard without the numpad, fortunately I found two such keyboards and I have one at work and one at home (Logitech K310 and Microsoft Sculpt).

And I haven't seen in live any person that uses numpad, I always thought it is used by accountants only (and those that don't want to use two hands to enter numbers).

>>krzyk+9l
I'm left handed but can only use a mouse right-handed, so I can see how a numpad could be an issue, however;

> And it is next to impossible to get a keyboard without the numpad

Every single keyboard in my home, would like to disagree with you. I have at least a dozen, not one with a numpad.

A lot of them are mechanical, Tenkeyless (TKL) which is my favourite size, and is _literally_ a numpadless form factor.

You might say, that they don't count because they're mechanical, or expensive, or loud, or some other argument, non of which are unavoidable, but, if you want to argue concern about comfort of keyboards and long term use, I think you should seriously consider investing in a half decent mechanical. There are ergonomic form factors, and variety of sizes and key counts from 40% to over 100% (of standard).

You can get a cheap TKL for as little as £30, or hand build one like some of mine for £500-700+ and everything in between.