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>>danso+(OP)
This is why we need civilian oversight of every police department. Cops are generally too corrupt and/or too incompetent to investigate their own. They've proven their inability to hold themselves accountable for their actions, so it's up to the rest of us to do it.

>>psycho+Mg
Or we could abolish the police and create a new public safety department without the structural racism and ingrained power-hungry culture.

>>miniki+mh
What would such a new public safety department be and how would it differ from police? What would such a department do differently in the circumstance of failure to follow lawful orders and how would it have no systemic racism?

>>austin+2p
Having a peace officer department that is not given guns, or a mandate to apply violence first, and ask questions later, would be a substantial improvement for doing 95-99% of the work police currently do.

It might still be systemically racist, but at least the consequences thereof will be lower.

We've already tried reforming departments. It doesn't work. The entire management structure of your neighbourhood police department resists reform. The line officers resist reform. The police chief resists reform. No amount of winger-wagging at them will result in reform. No amount of sensitivity training or unconscious bias training, or body cams have managed to reign them in.

Wiping the slate clean, and starting over might.

>>vkou+yp
> It might still be systemically racist, but at least the consequences thereof will be lower.

If that’s the final output I suspect most people will want to retain the status quo because the primary problem is ignored at great expense.